Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site kesmai.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!ncr-sd!ncrcae!ncsu!uvacs!uvaee!kesmai!kff From: kff@kesmai.UUCP (Kelton Flinn) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Re: mathematics of support pricing Message-ID: <107@kesmai.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-Apr-86 10:59:47 EDT Article-I.D.: kesmai.107 Posted: Sun Apr 27 10:59:47 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 2-May-86 06:52:43 EDT References: <2008@decwrl.DEC.COM> <106@kesmai.UUCP> <13041@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <11328@amdcad.UUCP> <110@gumby.UUCP> Organization: Kesmai Corporation Lines: 26 Well, the Mac+ has arrived, we carted the Lisa out with a fork lift :-) and handed over the extra $1500. Do I regret it? NO WAY! After 3 days with the Mac+ and HFS, I can't beleive I used to actually get work done on the Lisa. Instead of 5 minutes to start the machine, and 2 minutes to get into the Finder, we are talking about 15 sec. to start up, and 2-6 seconds for the Finder, depending on the contents of the disk cache. Its a bitch we didn't wait a while and buy one of these things new, since we never got $5000 use out of the Lisa, but thats the way the cookie crumbles. Perhaps it would have been nicer if Apple had upgraded the Lisa to handle HFS, etc, but now we have the sound generator (it talks!) and I can realistically consider carting the machine home with me (without the HD20) for some extra work/games. Tossing $0.02 into the C discussion, Consulair C 4.1 works very well under HFS. All the folders I had set up under MFS transfered directly, I ran the Path Manager, and *poof* the program compiled and linked. As far as portability goes, I have a graphics-intensive application I am developing that is routinely transfered between the Mac, and a PC using Lattice C, that compiles and runs on both machines with a few #IFDEF's. Don't have Quickdraw on the PC, of course, so the output isn't quite as nice, and Lattice is *slow*, but the program works. Both compilers seem to be pretty close to bug free. That 512K Lisa memory board is still available, by the way, we don't seem to have a crowd beating the doors down to get it... Kelton Flinn ..!decvax!mcnc!ncsu!uvacs!kesmai!kff