Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!lll-lcc!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!ius2.cs.cmu.edu!ralphw From: ralphw@ius2.cs.cmu.edu (Ralph Hyre) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Friendly user interface? Message-ID: <337@ius2.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 29-Apr-86 11:57:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ius2.337 Posted: Tue Apr 29 11:57:26 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 2-May-86 10:19:04 EDT References: <921@watdragon.UUCP> <614@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> <13461@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 44 In article <13461@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> mazlack@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Lawrence J. Mazlack) writes: >> >>... If more developers read the bible: the chapter on user interface >> guidlines in Inside Mac then they would know that all commands >>should have either menu items or labelled places to click on the screen. >>Sure, expert users want the command keys, But please, developers, include >>a glossary and in so far as is possible, put the commands in the menu >>bar! > >The nice thing about using the option stuff is that you can do things a lot >quicker. The stuff that I use most in Word is font changes, underlining, bolds, >italics, etc. If you change these a lot, going to the menu a lot is pretty >time consuming... The idea is that all command shortcuts should be indicated next the the corresponding menu item, so that there are two ways to accomplish a task. This makes a glossary unneccesary. For example: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ @ File Font Style ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open %O Geneva %G Italic %I Close %C Roman %R Bold %B Flip-all-bits-and-stand-on-your-head %F etc. It would be nice for the command equivalents were on the left hand side, (eg %O Open ...) to make formatting menu entries easier. It's inexcusable to provide functionality in an applications and not make it accessible by menu items as well as command keys. >However, I will agree that everything doable by option sequences should also >be doable by menu - and Word does sin in this respect. MicroSoft should know better, they were one of the earliest Mac developers. -- - Ralph W. Hyre, Jr. Internet: ralphw@c.cs.cmu.edu (cmu-cs-c.arpa) Usenet: ralphw@mit-eddie.uucp Fido: Ralph Hyre at Net 129, Node 0 (Pitt-Bull) Phone: (412)CMU-BUGS