Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!nsc!amdahl!bnrmtv!connery From: connery@bnrmtv.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: PD Communications Program Wanted Message-ID: <358@bnrmtv.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-May-86 14:54:52 EDT Article-I.D.: bnrmtv.358 Posted: Mon May 12 14:54:52 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 14-May-86 22:12:32 EDT References: <2149@uwmacc.UUCP> <512@ethos.UUCP> <135@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <1054@well.UUCP> Organization: Bell Northern Research, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 35 > Discussion of Crosstalk and PROCOMM, each with advocates. I am currently using PibTerm, even though it has a number of glaring flaws. I have used both Crosstalk and PROCOMM in their latest versions. I would not suggest anybody buy Crosstalk unless they really want to spend money or have already tried PROCOMM. Crosstalk has a number of problems. It doesn't seem to do flow control particularly well, has no conditional capabilities (the WHEN command, I think its called, just plain DOES NOT WORK and NEVER HAS), and doesn't handle pathnames particularly well. On top of that the interface is getting just a little old. I would be using PROCOMM except that it doesn't have keyboard mappings in the terminal emulator. I use the rand editor on a unix system I call up and I want to be able to define the keypad PgUp key as a page up in the editor. PROCOMM doesn't let me do this. I can do this in either PibTerm or Crosstalk, but PROCOMM uses PgUp for File Upload. I could either get used to hitting another key for this, but I use too many systems already to start futzing around with something like that. Also once I start redefining the up and down cursor keys, I won't be able to use them in menus and such. If PROCOMM had keyboard mappings I would probably be using it. Of course its script language is BIZARRE. At least CrossTalk and PibTerm use words!!! PibTerm's has turned out to be the best I've seen, and I've written some really complex logon macros with it. The problems with PibTerm are legion however--problems in XModem handling with some bulletin boards, the way it does ASCII capture and transmit, the fact that its just too fucking big (course you ain't seen nothing until you've seen the latest version of QModem). Still waiting for the best solution... -- Glenn Connery, Bell Northern Research, Mountain View, CA {hplabs,amdahl,3comvax}!bnrmtv!connery