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From: mading@puff.UUCP (Eric Mading)
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Subject: Re: Urinalysis...Lie Detectors...all th
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Date: Tue, 13-May-86 11:04:52 EDT
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Posted: Tue May 13 11:04:52 1986
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Summary: I would NOT tolerate tampering

> 
> It is illegal to drive under the influence of THC in most states, but
> unless you get in an accident and have blood taken, there is no easy
> way for the police to catch you.
> 
What if you drive erradically?  What if you run a red light? or a stop sign?
A cop would pull you over and if he smelled marijuana in the car, he would
give a test for marijuana.  You don't even have to be in an accident.  If you
tested positive for THC, you would be arrested for driving under the influence
of drugs (which is what DWI is).
> It's also interesting to note that any of the commercial urine tests
> will fall apart under a court challenge due to their uncertainess.
> Also, any of the tests can be foiled by the addition of 5 grams of
> salt to your urine sample, or an even smaller amount of bleach or
> drano.  The test for THC is a simple yes/no assay, and if you taint
> the urine sample enough, the test cannot even assay it as urine, and
> returns a "no" result.  
> 
> 				Andy
> 
I would have these urine/blood tests kept under guard to insure that there
is no tampering with the samples.  Yes, these guards would even watch you
pee and make sure that you don't add anything to the urine.

I have one very good reason for using drug testing and refusing to hire smokers.That is money.  If I hired a drug-free (except for alcohol, prescription drugs,
over-the-counter medication, and caffiene) work force, my insurance rates would
go down and each employee would have a lower health insurance deduction.  This
equals higher take-home-pay in two ways (I could and would pay a higher salary
and there would be a lower deduction for health insurance).  Also, research has
shown the dangers smokers inflict on non-smokers and the dangers of smoking,
not just to human health.  Smoking is a fire hazard.  If a smoker leaves his
cigarrete or cigar still lit in his ashtray and doesn't put it out because he
is going to smoke it later and forgets about it, the cigarrete or cigar would
continue to burn shorter on the live end and, as anyone who has had a science
course can tell you, the end that goes in your mouth would get heavier and 
fall out of the ashtray and on the carpet.  This would cause a fire.  As a
result, fire insurance rates would be increasing.  If I didn't hire smokers,
I could keep my fire insurance rates down.