Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie.Berkeley.EDU!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.misc,net.rumor Subject: Re: A. LINCOLN A MAN SO MISUNDERSTOOD> Message-ID: <13847@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sat, 17-May-86 17:01:36 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.13847 Posted: Sat May 17 17:01:36 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 19-May-86 04:59:11 EDT References: <135@petrus.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 27 Keywords: Lincoln as villain Xref: watmath net.politics:16108 net.misc:9641 net.rumor:2402 Summary: The Devil's Advocate has his say >I just read in a posting discusing the presidents >and rating them from 1 to 10. > > Lincoln 10 > >Lincoln is highly over rated, he only freed the slaves!!!! OK, the Devil's advocate will now speak. I give Lincoln a -10 (thats NEGATIVE 10). Why? He was a naive idealist in the "tradition" of Wilson and Carter. These unrealistic idealists have done more harm than the most venal and corrupt politicians I can think of. What did Lincoln do? He started the USA down the road to centralized tyranny by destroying states rights. His politics resulted in millions of casualties and utter destruction of the South. So he freed the slaves. They would have been freed anyway after a short period of time. And we still don't have justice for blacks more than 100 years later. Just a more subtle form of exploitation. To hell with moralists who want to take power for themselves so they can impose their morality on the rest of us. Up with the dignity of the individual, down with the worship of the state.