Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucsfcgl.ucsfcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ucsfcgl!arnold From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.misc,net.rumor Subject: Re: Jack Stanley's Presidential rating list Message-ID: <9859@ucsfcgl.ucsfcgl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-May-86 22:27:43 EDT Article-I.D.: ucsfcgl.9859 Posted: Wed May 21 22:27:43 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 24-May-86 21:32:23 EDT References: <3040@decwrl.DEC.COM> Reply-To: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL) Organization: Computer Graphics Laboratory, UCSF Lines: 41 Xref: watmath net.politics:16296 net.misc:9682 net.rumor:2476 In article <3040@decwrl.DEC.COM> arndt@lymph.DEC writes: >Richard Nixon I see you at least rate higher than the above booby. But he >should be a 10. His detractors even are saying nice things about him now >and history will judge him (just behind Ronny) as the greatest president of >our century. (If ONLY he had burned the tapes!!!) Not *this* detractor. I have nothing nice to say about Nixon. Well, let us be more precise. The two nice things I have to say about him aren't very nice (sort of damning with faint praise): (1) He did start normalization of relations with China (2) He didn't actually *try* to impose martial law, although he sho 'nuff *thought* about it. He extended the war in Vietnam, he used the IRS to harass political opponents and people who said not-nice things about him, he managed to nominate three (count, 'em, three) people to the Supreme Court who were so bad that even the Senate didn't take them (which is usually a rubber stamp; this was a record for any President), he impounded funds which Congress had allocated for things he didn't want to do, he violated the Constitution by waging war against Cambodia and Laos without even the pretense of Congressional approval, he authorized illegal invasions of personal privacy by bypassing the courts, he belived that anything the President did in the name of National Security was ipso facto legal. On top of all this, there was Watergate, in which he suborned (incited others to commit) perjury, lied to the American people about what he knew and when, initiated more illegal wiretaps, invaded more peoples' personal freedoms, invoked National Security to hide his own wrongdoing, proved himself completely disloyal to his compatriots, had the campaigns of the leading Democratic contenders sabotaged so that he could run against one of the weaker candidates, obstructed justice, and general acted like a sleazy mobster. Speaking of which, I forgot to mention his connections with the Mob. And remember, folks, these were just as President. He had a long, checkered (pun intended) career before then, too, and if you want a few things I have to say about *that*, just ask. Me, I rate Nixon a 1. Or whatever the lowest is. Ken Arnold