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From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL)
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Subject: Re: A. LINCOLN A MAN SO MISUNDERSTOOD>
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Date: Wed, 21-May-86 22:37:31 EDT
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In article <13847@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Tom Tedrick writes:
>To hell with moralists who want to take power
>for themselves so they can impose their morality on the rest
>of us. Up with the dignity of the individual, down with the
>worship of the state.

And what is the "dignity of the individual", and why is that so
important?  Do I see a creeping moral value here?

I sure do.  How dare you want goverment to impose your moral value of
"individual dignity" on the rest of us? :-)

Exiting sarcasm mode, it should be obvious from the above that whatever
the form of goverment, it is the imposition of *some* set of moral code
upon everyone.  And, in any pluralistic society, there will be people
who disagree with it, thus making the law an imposition on those
people.  You think that the principle of States' Rights was more
important than a faster (you claim only marginally faster, which I know
of no evidence for) freeing of the slaves.  Talk about an imposition on
the dignity of the individual for some abstract morality!  That just
about takes the big one.

		Ken Arnold