Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!bullwinkle!batcomputer!hsgj From: hsgj@batcomputer.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics,net.misc,net.rumor Subject: Re: Jack Stanley's Presidential rating list Message-ID: <345@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Date: Sat, 24-May-86 00:57:18 EDT Article-I.D.: batcompu.345 Posted: Sat May 24 00:57:18 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 25-May-86 16:44:41 EDT References: <3040@decwrl.DEC.COM> <9859@ucsfcgl.ucsfcgl.UUCP> Reply-To: hsgj@batcomputer.UUCP (Dan Green) Followup-To: net.politics Organization: Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY Lines: 38 Xref: watmath net.politics:16367 net.misc:9699 net.rumor:2511 In article <9859@ucsfcgl.ucsfcgl.UUCP> arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL) writes: >In article <3040@decwrl.DEC.COM> arndt@lymph.DEC writes: >>Richard Nixon I see you at least rate higher than the above booby. But he >>should be a 10. His detractors even are saying nice things about him now >>and history will judge him (just behind Ronny) as the greatest president of >>our century. (If ONLY he had burned the tapes!!!) > >Not *this* detractor. I have nothing nice to say about Nixon. Well, >let us be more precise. The two nice things I have to say about him >aren't very nice (sort of damning with faint praise): > [...] > (2) He didn't actually *try* to impose martial law, although > he sho 'nuff *thought* about it. > [...] >Me, I rate Nixon a 1. Or whatever the lowest is. > > Ken Arnold I agree with Ken Arnold. A real eye opening book which is historically accurate (in my opinion at any rate) is "Time of Illusion" by Jonathon Schell. This book describes Nixon and his staff's attempt to centralize all the police government agencies (read FBI, CIA, NSA, etc) under one roof -- and under WHITE HOUSE control. To me this speaks of dictatorship where one person controls the "police" of the nation. Schell points out that probably the only reason this never went through is that the guy who was the director of the FBI (Helms???) knew that he would lose all his political contacts if his organization was taken away from him. So he (apparently) threatened to expose hidden secrets about the Nixon admin if the deal went through. As we know, the deal was cancelled. A lot of good that did ole Dick :-). Schell also describes lots of other neat things. By the way, I am changing the followup line to not include net.rumor anymore. But I am leaving this posting in net.rumor cause I feel tyrannical... -- Dan Green ARPA: hsgj@vax2.ccs.cornell.edu <== Preferred ~~~~~~~~~ BITNET: hsgj@cornella UUCP: {decvax,ihnp4,allegra}!cornell!batcomputer!hsgj