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From: jbuck@epimass.UUCP (Joe Buck)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Re: Is the net falling apart?
Message-ID: <220@epimass.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 12-May-86 13:47:38 EDT
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Posted: Mon May 12 13:47:38 1986
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Reply-To: jbuck@epimass.UUCP (Joe Buck)
Organization: Entropic Processing, Inc., Cupertino, CA
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Summary: The problem is notes; HP software is falling apart

Matthew P. Wiener writes:
>First there was Unknown@hplabs.  Now I see an occasional Unknown@decwrl
>or even just Unknown.  And articles appear two or three or four or even
>*five* times duplicated.  And the latest is ridiculous.  Two to two dozen
>week old articles show up all of a sudden in a newsgroup.  Yikes!

The repeat articles and Unknown@decwrl are all coming from HP; check the
Path headers; some of them are really strange.  The repeats of old articles
all come from hpitg; their paths indicate that hpitg is directly connected
to hundreds of machines.  Greg Fowler @ hplabs tells me they've disconnected
hpitg until they can figure out what the problem is.

Apparently hplabs and other hp sites have been experimenting with some
new "notes" software.  As far as I know, hplabs is the only backbone site
running notes.  Notes is so different from news (especially for followups)
that I'm surprised it works as well as it does.  If I were a net.god I'd
ban notes from the net.
-- 
- Joe Buck 	{ihnp4!pesnta,oliveb}!epimass!jbuck
  Entropic Processing, Inc., Cupertino, California

Better living through entropy!