Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!pyramid!pesnta!epimass!jbuck From: jbuck@epimass.UUCP (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Which companies pay for news? Which companies benefit? Message-ID: <222@epimass.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-May-86 16:58:20 EDT Article-I.D.: epimass.222 Posted: Tue May 13 16:58:20 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 15-May-86 05:00:44 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Entropic Processing, Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 50 The Usenet is an expensive proposition. However, it is not a charity for all the companies that pay for it. For some, it represents quite lucrative free advertising. This is not necessarily bad, as long as those who benefit give something back. Some of the net's biggest phone bills are paid by: 1) AT&T (well, they are their lines) 2) DEC 3) U.S. government sites 4) universities Other minicomputer manufacturers (e.g. HP, NCR) and peripheral manufacturers who sell a lot to minicomputer users (Tektronix) also make major contributions. In short, until fairly recently companies who benefited from the net had a lot to do with paying for it, though some (DEC) put in more than they get out. Some of the net's biggest corporate beneficiaries are the makers of personal computers. One such company is one of the largest corporations in the world. Another has seven newsgroups (10% of all net traffic!) devoted to discussions of its products. A third has five. These companies know who they are, and you know who they are. All three are much bigger freeloaders that someone who mails the sources to hack (I was amused to read one of the corporate freeloaders flaming others for net abuse). All make good products, and many people on the net want to read about them. But two of the three have only leaf sites on the net, and pay almost no phone bills and move no news. The third could certainly do a lot more. A cost-benefit analysis at any of these sites would show that spending money on netnews is a good thing. It would be a lot easier for people at those sites to justify the phone bills to management than it would be for those who currently foot the bill. I know that business for microcomputer makers is tough these days. But what about the loss to your company when backbone sites are forced to cut some of the lists that promote your product, because of the load? I doubt that this article will move anyone (except to flame me), but if anyone is interested in moving more news as a result of this, I suppose the backbone administrators could tell you what additional connections would be most useful (I think we need another N. Calif- S. Calif link, for one thing). -- - Joe Buck {ihnp4!pesnta,oliveb}!epimass!jbuck Entropic Processing, Inc., Cupertino, California Better living through entropy!