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From: craig@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Craig Wylie)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Re: Towards making hosts and their admin free from a criminal offence
Message-ID: <164@comp.lancs.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 16-May-86 08:23:29 EDT
Article-I.D.: comp.164
Posted: Fri May 16 08:23:29 1986
Date-Received: Sun, 18-May-86 15:04:58 EDT
References: <611@bu-cs.UUCP>
Reply-To: craig@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Craig Wylie)
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.
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Isaac Balbin

>>...Consider a user who posts an article (be it locally
>>or world-wide) the material of which, might be considered to be a 
>>criminal offence in some country...
>>...(suggests that the posting program should prompt:)

In article <611@bu-cs.UUCP> bzs@bu-cs.UUCP writes:

>is this guy kidding? Who's gonna come and get us from these hypothetical
>foreign countries? Hey guy, you just crossed the line where "liberalism"
>and "tolerance" stop dead, I (and I hope most of my compatriots) don't
>"tolerate" the tyranny you describe, that's not a "cosmopolitan" view as
>you seem to imply, that's cowardice.
                           ^^^^^^^^^

By this do you mean that to respect some other person's point of view,
is cowardly ?  Your posting would seem to suggest that the only people
worth paying any attention to are those that can inflict some damage
on you if you ignore them.

There are countries, such as France, with a very different set of laws
from those used in the USA. It is I believe illegal to send personal
details across French borders by Electronic means. Although I don't agree
with this rule it wasn't passed by the French legislature as a personal
challange to every other country in the world. They did it as the elected
officials of their country. I'm sure you wouldn't dispute their right to
do this.

Simply because your actions aren't illegal where they are perpetrated
dosen't mean that you shouldn't consider their legality in all the places
where they are manifest.

The concept of 

	"I'll do what I like because I'm bigger than you and you
	 can't get me"

has always been the cry of the bully and lout, these concepts 
are out of place in an educated environment.

>If residents of other countries think it's unfair that they may get
>cut off because USENET violates some disgusting internal law they
				      ^^^^^^^^^^
Your tolerance is touching.

>have, tell them to go speak to their disgusting internal lawmakers, I
>ain't gonna wear no foreign gag. Yes, I feel sorry for them, but not
 ^^^^^
Even your language is de-generating, I was obviously wrong to think this
was an Educated person speaking.

>sorry enough to compromise *my* freedoms, 

You obvioulsy rate your right to Xenophobia very highly

>	...	that's for their citizens to
>fix.

It may come as a great shock to you, but many of the 'citizens' of
whom you speak are quite happy with the state of many of their laws.

You can rest assured that if you do violate the laws of any country other
than the US they will notice, as a Xenophobic you probably don't want to
travel abroad in all those disgusting foreign countries anyway.

>	-Barry Shein, Boston University
         ^^^^^^^^^^^

	Prove your not a bully, use power to help, not to control.

Craig.

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