Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!styx!fair From: fair@styx.UUCP (Erik E. Fair) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: Digests (Actually using rn and digests) Message-ID: <20662@styx.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-May-86 00:26:48 EDT Article-I.D.: styx.20662 Posted: Mon May 19 00:26:48 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 20-May-86 06:58:51 EDT References: <1143@bunker.UUCP> <6912@boring.UUCP> Organization: Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, Livermore, CA Lines: 36 Keywords: digest, rn Summary: Bravo! Let your voices be heard where it counts. As the gateway maintainer for the mod groups coming from the ARPA Internet, I applaud the sentiments being expressing in opposition to digests on the USENET. Historically digests were a stopgap measure to prevent the mailers on the internet from being inundated by great volumes of individual messages on the large mailing lists (e.g. SF-LOVERS, HUMAN-NETS). A form of message batching, really. They continue to serve this purpose admirably on the internet, however, as noted here, they make no sense at all on the USENET because we do message batching at the transport level. So how can YOU join the fight against digests? Well, when I last approached the moderators of the various digested mailing lists on the internet, I was almost universally turned down. Exactly two moderators listened and acted on what I told them: Dr. Kenneth Laws of the AILIST (mod.ai), and Jon Solomon of the TELECOM digest (mod.telecom). I got the impression that the uncooperative moderators didn't believe me when I told them that I represented a community of thousands of readers whose software is vastly better suited to individual messages, rather than digests. What YOU can do is mail a note to the moderator of the digested groups that you read, urging him or her to send the individual messages to the gateway at ucbvax.berkeley.edu (headers intact), rather than the digested form. I stand ready to help them with the conversion as necessary. If many of you respond in this manner, perhaps there will be a change. Perhaps there will come a day when digests are long forgotten, and we all have better tools to deal with the rapidly increasing volumes of our worldwide network... write your moderator! spread the word! down with digests! Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu P.S. There is a special place on the other side of the river for which my posting site is named for those moderators in USENET land that use digests. They should know better.