Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ulysses!allegra!princeton!caip!seismo!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!isl1.ri.cmu.edu!cycy From: cycy@isl1.ri.cmu.edu (Christopher Young) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: Towards making hosts and their admin free from a criminal offence Message-ID: <277@isl1.ri.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 22-May-86 20:49:18 EDT Article-I.D.: isl1.277 Posted: Thu May 22 20:49:18 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 25-May-86 17:13:51 EDT References: <611@bu-cs.UUCP>, <164@comp.lancs.ac.uk> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 46 >>>...Consider a user who posts an article (be it locally >>>or world-wide) the material of which, might be considered to be a >>>criminal offence in some country... >>>...(suggests that the posting program should prompt:) >>is this guy kidding? Who's gonna come and get us from these hypothetical >>foreign countries? Hey guy, you just crossed the line where "liberalism" >>and "tolerance" stop dead, I (and I hope most of my compatriots) don't >>"tolerate" the tyranny you describe, that's not a "cosmopolitan" view as >>you seem to imply, that's cowardice. ^^^^^^^^^ >By this do you mean that to respect some other person's point of view, >is cowardly ? Your posting would seem to suggest that the only people >worth paying any attention to are those that can inflict some damage >on you if you ignore them. >There are countries, such as France, with a very different set of laws >from those used in the USA. It is I believe illegal to send personal >details across French borders by Electronic means. Although I don't agree >with this rule it wasn't passed by the French legislature as a personal >challange to every other country in the world. They did it as the elected Perhaps France (or whatever country), or the sites within that country, should be responsible for the content of what is transmitted into their country (ie., they should censor it themselves). For one thing, the logistics of preventing material which may be against the law in some country would be mind-boggling. Also, laws are dynamic, so somebody would have to be constantly checking newly passed and ammeded legislations in all countries the Net reaches. Finally, countries have no legal domain outside their territories anyway, so it really is their problem. >> -Barry Shein, Boston University >Craig. >UUCP: ...!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!craig| Post: University of Lancaster, >DARPA: craig%lancs.comp@ucl-cs | Department of Computing, >JANET: craig@uk.ac.lancs.comp | Bailrigg, Lancaster, UK. >Phone: +44 524 65201 Ext. 4146 | LA1 4YR >Project: Cosmos Distributed Operating Systems Research Group -- Chris. Intelligent Systems Lab Robotics Institute Carnegie-Mellon University. arpa: cycy@cmu-ri-isl1 uucp: {...![arpa/uucp gateway (eg. ucbvax)]}!cycy@cmu-ri-isl1 "If they give you ruled paper, write the other way." -- Juan Ramon Jimenez