Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!chuq From: chuq@sun.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news,net.news.group Subject: Re: Which newsgroups are "useless", and what is a soapbox. Message-ID: <3758@sun.uucp> Date: Sun, 25-May-86 12:04:10 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.3758 Posted: Sun May 25 12:04:10 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 26-May-86 06:49:33 EDT References: <2082@hao.UUCP> <13913@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <259@dmcnh.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Fictional Reality, uLtd Lines: 26 Xref: watmath net.news:4914 net.news.group:5716 > Some people just miss the point entirely. If we do away with "soapbox" > groups, whatever they are, all (most of?) the traffic currently channeled > into these "useless" groups will end up in other ("usefull") groups. This is factually untrue. In the two cases where this has happened (specifically net.flame and net.bizzare) in neither case did the other 'good' groups take the traffic of the dissolved group. Flames continue to exist, but in about the same proportions as they did before -- they simply aren't cross posted to net.flame and the stuff specific to net.flame went away. With net.bizarre, there have been a couple of attempts to 'take over' net.rumor (big loss...) but the total uselessness and high volume that the dead group was known for didn't carry forward. This is an argument that was used to keep from zapping net.flame for years. When net.flame finally did go away, if was proven wrong. The fact is that MOST of the volume associated with that group goes away. It doesn't transport itself into another group. -- :From the lofty realms of Castle Plaid: Chuq Von Rospach chuq%plaid@sun.COM FidoNet: 125/84 CompuServe: 73317,635 {decwrl,decvax,hplabs,ihnp4,pyramid,seismo,ucbvax}!sun!plaid!chuq The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hoping when a rock or a club will do -- McCloctnik the Lucid