Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!bu-cs!bzs From: bzs@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion,net.sci Subject: Re: Hitler: Why we need a Science of Morality Message-ID: <534@bu-cs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 3-May-86 17:22:38 EDT Article-I.D.: bu-cs.534 Posted: Sat May 3 17:22:38 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 8-May-86 03:52:39 EDT Organization: Boston Univ Comp. Sci. Lines: 43 Xref: linus net.philosophy:4838 net.religion:9749 net.sci:483 Re: Would logic have prevented the rise of Nazism? Although I must admit I am not acting at a terribly high intellectual level, somehow I find this claim astounding and completely denying how, in many ways, I heretofore have considered Nazism. I thought a common thesis was that Hitler utilized modern science (or an appearance of the same) to a technologically entranced German people to justify his social engineering. For example, his racism was based largely on an extrapolation of current eugenic theories. He referred to mongrel races and a need to genetically purify an Aryan race. His anti-semitic campaigns did not stop with simple "we don't like them", he (let's take 'he' from here on to represent the general Nazi race campaigns) used biological arguments with diagrams of "Jews" showing how their physical characteristics clearly belied an inferior form of human being (not unlike racists in this country trying to show that the flat nose bridges of blacks shows they are closer to monkeys and other such drivel.) Consider all those experiments under the guise of science in the concentration camps (like tying together the legs of a woman in labor just to see what happened.) I THOUGHT THE POINT WAS HITLER'S NAZI GERMANY WAS PRECISELY SCIENCE GONE MAD. You know, those cold, logical germans, killing off the impure blood, doing their secret weapons and other war research etc. Now, I suppose one could argue that the point is that logic is abused throughout and the problem was that people were fooled by simple logical prestidigitation, but somehow I feel if that is the argument it is a poorly put argument, there is something more important going on (like that people will believe what they want to believe, mass hysteria etc.) No, I don't think it's logic that would save humanity, it's humanity recognizing humanity, unless that also is logic. -Barry Shein, Boston University