Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!lll-lcc!vecpyr!amd!pesnta!hplabs!ucbvax!brahms!desj From: desj@brahms.BERKELEY.EDU (David desJardins) Newsgroups: net.sci Subject: Re: How will it fall? Message-ID: <13789@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Wed, 14-May-86 05:48:37 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.13789 Posted: Wed May 14 05:48:37 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 16-May-86 06:46:59 EDT References: <632@tekigm2.UUCP> <3461@hplabsb.UUCP> <415@ccird1.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 43 In article <415@ccird1.UUCP> rb@ccird1.UUCP (Rex Ballard) writes: >>> Picture yourself on a space station similar to the one used in 2001 >>> (i.e. a spinning ring or toroid) .... spin of the station is providing >>> a "gravity" about equal to that found on the surface of the Earth. >>> >>> If you were to drop a ball ... would it fall straight down ... or >>> would it follow another path? >> >>Due to angular momentum (or lack there of) it will fall in a curved >>path toward the opposite direction of the rotation of the toroid. > >As to whether you would see an observable curve, depends on the, >diameter of the toroid. Since you have specified pseudogravitation >equal to earths, a small toroid would have to spin very quickly, and >curvature would be quite pronounced. If the toroid were sufficiently >large, the arc might only be a few seconds. > >Does anybody have a formula for the relationship? The exact equation of motion in the coordinate frame of the observer moving with the rotation (+x = spinward, +y = down, observer at (0,0), R = radius of rotation, w = rate of rotation = sqrt (g/R)) is: (x, y) = (wRt cos wt - R sin wt, wRt sin wt + R (cos wt - 1)). To third order in time, and substituting sqrt (g/R) for w, this is: (x, y) ~= (-1/2 g sqrt (g/R) t^3, 1/2 g t^2). The y term at least is not surprising! Now, eliminating t and solving for x in terms of y, x ~= - sqrt(2) y^3/2 R^-1/2. So, if y = 1 meter, we have the following results: R x (distance of impact point from "straight down") ------ ----- 10 m .44 m 100 m .14 m 1000 m .04 m -- David desJardins