Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion,net.sci Subject: Re: Hitler: Why we need a Science of Morality Message-ID: <1185@psivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 15-May-86 19:03:40 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.1185 Posted: Thu May 15 19:03:40 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 19-May-86 04:18:43 EDT References: <534@bu-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 53 Xref: watmath net.philosophy:5362 net.religion:10186 net.sci:878 In article <534@bu-cs.UUCP> bzs@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein) writes: > >I thought a common thesis was that Hitler utilized modern science (or >an appearance of the same) to a technologically entranced German >people to justify his social engineering. I would say that he used the *appearance* only, Hitler had no conception of the reality of science any more than he was a good art critic! > >For example, his racism was based largely on an extrapolation of >current eugenic theories. He referred to mongrel races and a need >to genetically purify an Aryan race. Rather it was *justified*(not based) on appeals to *popular* (mis)conceptions of the current eugenics theories. >(not unlike racists in this country trying to show that the >flat nose bridges of blacks shows they are closer to monkeys and >other such drivel.) Very like, and his drivel was no more scientific than that of US racists! Just becaues some idea is justified by an appeal to science does *not* make it science. > >Consider all those experiments under the guise of science in the >concentration camps (like tying together the legs of a woman in >labor just to see what happened.) This is hardly science. Doing something "just to see what happens" is *not* the scientific method. These people were using science as an excuse to play, with human beings as toys. > >I THOUGHT THE POINT WAS HITLER'S NAZI GERMANY WAS PRECISELY SCIENCE > GONE MAD. NO, it was society gone mad, with science being used as an excuse and a justification. Very little true science was done under Hitler, that is probably why we developed the A-bomb instead of them. > >You know, those cold, logical germans, killing off the impure blood, >doing their secret weapons and other war research etc. Hitler hardly appealed to cold logic, his was a *very* emotional approach. When giving speaches he practically frothed at the mouth. He gained support by calling on powerful emotions not logic. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ??