Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie.Berkeley.EDU!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.sci Subject: Re: Science and Freud Message-ID: <13849@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sat, 17-May-86 19:00:02 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.13849 Posted: Sat May 17 19:00:02 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 19-May-86 05:02:13 EDT References: <13695@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <457@gargoyle.UUCP> <260@spar.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.philosophy:5375 net.sci:888 Summary: Down with Freud >>Matt Wiener writes: >>>And Freud is still considered garbage by the scientific community.... >>>[Freudian garbage] still fails every known test that the scientific >>>community throws at it. >>This is an extremely uninformed statement. >Blasphemy! How dare you question the Word of Wiener! >Seriously, as one who, in the past, has held Freud's "distasteful" theories >in low regard, I urge Matthew to reconsider his opinions about one of >the most creative thinkers in history. I agree with Matthew on this one. I also agree Freud was "creative", in the mathematical sense of creating nonsense out of thin air. Having personally had to deal with many unthinking dupes of psychological brainwashing (there are LOTS of them in California), I believe psychology is in some respects no more valid than witchcraft, and that some psychologists are guilty of serious crimes against humanity, through misleading the public. Pop psychology in the form of mass cultism (EST for example) has misled millions of naive people, and is highly dangerous to society as well as to the individual.