Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!pesnta!hplabs!ucbvax!ernie.Berkeley.EDU!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sci Subject: Re: Science and Freud Message-ID: <13953@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Fri, 23-May-86 08:10:38 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.13953 Posted: Fri May 23 08:10:38 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 25-May-86 12:34:55 EDT References: <13695@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <457@gargoyle.UUCP> <260@spar.UUCP> <13849@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <776@petsd.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 35 >>Pop psychology in the form of mass cultism (EST for example) has >>misled millions of naive people, and is highly dangerous to society >>as well as to the individual. >Can this danger be demonstrated? A convincing demonstration >would be an example of some clearly evil event which was >caused by EST and would not have happened without EST. First of all, why should I demonstrate it? Why should I care whether you are convinced? I am speaking from direct personal experience. I told you the truth. If you want to disagree, that's fine. You are free to follow these mass movements if you like. Don't say you weren't warned that they are dangerous. The leaders are professionals, and unless you are a very rare individual you will probably fall for their game. I would be surprised if you ever figure out what they are doing. >By "evil" I mean more than just "boring and obnoxious." Loss >of life, long term hospitalization, jail sentences, and divorce >are serious enough to qualify. Take your own chances with it if you don't believe me. >Have I forgotten the growing crime rate, the breakup of "the" >family, the national malaise (J. Carter, 1979)? No. I just >do not see that pop psychology made these things (or any other >unwelcome trends you care to mention) worse. You don't see it. That is a problem you will have to deal with yourself. >Nor that if pop >psychology were suppressed (how, pray tell?) these trends >would have been alleviated. Need I point out the "straw man" here?