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From: hankb@teklds.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.sci
Subject: Re: Science and Freud
Message-ID: <2114@teklds.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 24-May-86 18:02:20 EDT
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Posted: Sat May 24 18:02:20 1986
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Reply-To: hankb@teklds.UUCP (Hank Buurman)
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In article <13953@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) writes:
>>>Pop psychology in the form of mass cultism (EST for example) has
>>>misled millions of naive people, and is highly dangerous to society
>>>as well as to the individual.
>
>>Can this danger be demonstrated?  A convincing demonstration
>>would be an example of some clearly evil event which was
>>caused by EST and would not have happened without EST.
>
>First of all, why should I demonstrate it?

Because you made a direct statement in a public forum. Since it was
not presented as an opinion, you should be prepared to back it up.

>Why should I care whether you are convinced?

Why should we than pay any attention to your statements? If you don't
care if anyone believes you, why post to the net? /dev/null would be
more appropriate.

>I am speaking from direct personal
>experience. I told you the truth.

We'd like to hear it.

>If you want to disagree,
>that's fine. You are free to follow these mass movements if
>you like. Don't say you weren't warned that they are dangerous.
>The leaders are professionals, and unless you are a very rare individual
>you will probably fall for their game. I would be surprised if
>you ever figure out what they are doing.

Why all the petulence? No one was making a personal attack on you.

>>By "evil" I mean more than just "boring and obnoxious."  Loss
>>of life, long term hospitalization, jail sentences, and divorce
>>are serious enough to qualify.

>Take your own chances with it if you don't believe me.
>
>You don't see it. That is a problem you will have to deal with yourself.

You could help us see it, but instead, your whole response is "fuck
you". Thanks.
-- 

                            Shalom,
                             Hank


		"I loved her with a love thirsty 
		and desperate. I felt that we two might 
		commit some act so atrocious that the world, 
		seeing us, would find it irresistable."

     Hank Buurman      Tektronix Inc.     ...tektronix!tekla!hankb