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From: pats@bnrmtv.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Wanted: Pointers to Unix hosted on IBM 4381 (like 370)
Message-ID: <373@bnrmtv.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 15-May-86 17:18:24 EDT
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> In article <697@brl-smoke.ARPA> gwyn@brl.ARPA writes:
> >IBM offers a fully supported implementation of UNIX System V,
> >caleed IX/370, which runs on top of VM/SP.  This is almost
> >certainly your best bet.
> 
> 
> Only if you are not terribly interested in doing much with it.  It is
> VERY slow, especially when running multiple guest machines.  Amdahl's
> UTS I hear is a much faster UNIX.
> 
> 
> Tim Kehres

Amdahl's UTS is great! We have it running an a 3083 (IBM). We
did beta testing for the UTS/V product (Full blown UNIX System V, Release 2)
and decided to keep it. IBM approached us for testing IX/370 but
we respectfully declined. IBM does not provide sources or support
for it's own 3270 type terminals! This is a major disadvantage 
in my opinon. There is a new product from Amdahl called UTS/580
that will run native on an 580 type machine or run as aguest host
under VM (on any "IBM compatable" machine).

UTS is fast, we have ~80 users on UTS at one time along with all
of those logged in under VM. Response time can slow down if 
one of the IBM users cranks something up (we have CBDS, IBM's
CAD system, what a hog!!...speaking from the point of view of
a UTS user :-). But in general, the response time is quite good.


Pat Shriver
BNR, Inc.
Mountain View, Ca.
415-940-2154