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From: srt@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (Scott Turner)
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Subject: Re: GNU Emacs
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Date: Tue, 20-May-86 20:19:31 EDT
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Seth wrote and asked how to get a version of GNU Emacs hacked for the 
Apollos.  GNU Emacs comes pre-hacked for the Apollos.  The major problem
is that you can't dump a version with the Lisp pre-loaded because of 
Apollo's brain-damaged memory management.  Other than that it seems
to work fine (running in the VT100 emulator).  We haven't used it very 
long, but the only problem we've found is with "suspend-emacs", which
hangs the node.

As to obtaining the code:  It is about 6 Meg in length and contains 
control chars, so it can't be shar-ed or sent out UUCP.  If you have
ARPA access you can ftp it from MIT-PREP (it took me a few days, but it
is doable).  Otherwise you should probably try and get a tape from 
Stallman.  The distribution blurb is appended.

						-- Scott

	GNU Emacs availability information, 22 Nov 1985
	     Copyright (C) 1985 Richard M. Stallman

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If you have Internet access, you can copy the latest Emacs
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See the file MACHINES in this directory for a list of machines
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Note that there is significant variation between Unix systems
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GNU Emacs is distributed with no warranty (see the General Public
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The foundation keeps a list of people who are willing to offer
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However, I plan to continue to improve GNU Emacs and keep it
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have.  I will probably fix anything that is clearly (to me) a
malfunction.  I may make an improvement if I consider it worth
the effort, but you should not be surprised if I don't think I
can spare time for it.  I hope to keep Emacs stable now, and
avoid putting much time into it, so I can work on other parts of
the GNU system.

If you are on the Internet, report bugs to
bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; on Usenet, use the address
...!ucbvax!bug-gnu-emacs%prep.ai.mit.edu.  Otherwise, phone the
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If you are a computer manufacturer, I encourage you to ship a
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If you like GNU Emacs, please express your satisfaction with a
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worth to you.  If you are glad that I developed GNU Emacs and
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Your donations will help to support the development of more
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