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From: nazgul@apollo.UUCP.UUCP
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Subject: Re: (relatively) cheap Unix boxes summary
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Date: Mon, 12-May-86 17:48:55 EDT
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Vieing for equal time here...

In article <8605031010.AA03338@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.UUCP (John
Gilmore) writes: 
> Note that since the survey was made, the price of a low end Sun has
> gone down by several thousand dollars.  The non-expandable Sun-3/50
> (68020, 12.5MHz, 4MB, 2 RS232, Ethernet, Cheapernet, full SCSI, and
> the usual Sun 19'' video, keyboard, mouse) lists for $7900.  You
> can order it with 85meg disk and 60 meg cartridge tape (Sun-3/52)
> for $13900 list.  I can't find my current price list, so I forget
> whether tapes and manuals cost extra.  (People buy a network of
> these so often they only need one set of tapes even though they
> have 5 or 10 workstations.)


Alternatively you could get an Apollo DN3000, the cost is a bit more
but it *is* expandable (plug in your favorite IBM-PC cards) and it
supports *both* 4.2 and System 5 simultaneously (and you can buy a PC
card that will allow you to run the PC in a window, where it
belongs).  (In other words; you can run 4.2 in one window, System 5
in a second, and a PC in a third, or you can mix and match
Sys5/BSD4.2 programs in the same scripts.)

    Monochrome Diskless (1024/1280):         $9900
               86meg disk and floppy:       $14400
    Color Diskless (1024/800/4):            $14900
               86meg disk and floppy:       $19400

Cartridge tape is available, and you can get it with 2 or 4 meg.  As
with all Apollos, it will run all Apollo software, written in any
version of the OS, without recompilation.  If you have more than one
you can transparently access the others with all protection and file
locking supported (in fact you generally don't realize you're
accessing a remote file).


> Disclaimers: I helped to build it and I still have Sun stock.
>              It doesn't have 4 serial, 2 parallel, as desired in
>              the survey, and you can't add them since part of the
>              low cost is "no bus".

Disclaimers:    I didn't help build it, but I've got one on my desk
                and I'm scheming on how to get another one at home.
                It doesn't have 4 serial and 2 parallel, but it does
                have the PC slots.

                                                -kee