Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <1925@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 10-May-86 12:48:21 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1925 Posted: Sat May 10 12:48:21 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 12-May-86 21:38:08 EDT Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 275 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Saturday, May 10, 1986, 12:51 EDT Today's Topics: OH MY BANK BALANCE Re: Album Dates The Swans 'Music for Palaces' Foetus, record labels, and Comic dreams KB and "Journey"...!?! Kate CDs [][][][][][][][][][] From: COBLEY A (on DUNDEE DEC-10) Date: Monday, 5-May-86 11:44:48-BST Subject: OH MY BANK BALANCE -------- oh no do you know what youve done ????? hawkwind on cd!!!!! i always said i would buy a cd player the day i saw hawkwind on cd and shit you say its happened , what will the bank manager say????? help me , HELP ME love and peace ?? your recident hippy andy c cobley%dundee.micro%dundee@ucl-cs dundee university scotland (dept of electronics) -------- [][][][][][][][][][] Subject: Re: Album Dates Date: Mon, 05 May 86 15:48:36 -0800 From: J. Peter Alfke J. Rossi complains that many independent labels omit the dates on the album covers. This is definitely a valid complaint; fortunately, the date usually makes onto the album somewhere, on the inner sleeve or disc label. There are, however, underhanded methods for finding the date on the outer sleeve. I realized 4AD's scheme a few months ago. All 4AD releases have catalog numbers like "CAD 211" or such. Of the number, the first digit is the last digit of the year, and the other two digits are the release number during that year. Thus 211 is the 11th release of 1982. The letters work like: CAD -- LP BAD -- 12" single / EP AD -- 7" single I've also seen: MAD -- 12" single (only on one Colourbox EP) WAD -- collection of scrumptious 23 Envelope posters (not yet in the hot little hands of this author) I did NOT waste enormous amounts of time figuring this out. The letter stuff is pretty simple, and the numbering scheme just came to me one day. Red Rhino, for one, seems to use a similar number scheme. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ The Bauhaus collection sonds GREAT on disc. My opinion of Bauhaus is growing by leaps & bounds. --Peter Alfke alfke@csvax.caltech.edu "Some kind of useless information s'posed to fire my imagination" [][][][][][][][][][] Return-Path: Date: Mon, 5 May 86 11:27:14 EDT From: Susanne E Trowbridge Subject: The Swans Darn! I'm so upset that they cancelled their Washington, DC show. I just don't get enough abuse on a regular basis... Maybe they could face-off against Red Lorry Yellow Lorry in a snarlathon. -Sue [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 04 May 86 10:00:36 EDT From: HABOURG%BROWNVM.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: 'Music for Palaces' A warning to Joe Turner and anyone else interested in the Eno bootleg MUSIC FOR PALACES (Centrifugal Records, England): if you do find a copy, listen before you buy!! It's a two record album, a 33 and a 45. The 33 I got was labelled as Eno, but actually contained a recording of Talking Heads live in some dive. Other folks have commented on this in net.music. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 6 May 86 02:37:46 EDT From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: Foetus, record labels, and Comic dreams > From: Susanne E Trowbridge [Regarding the Swans...] > Darn! I'm so upset that they cancelled their Washington, DC show. > I just don't get enough abuse on a regular basis... > Maybe they could face-off against Red Lorry Yellow Lorry in a > snarlathon. It wouldn't be any contest. Red Lorry Yellow Lorry would jump in their trucks and blue-shift away as fast as possible. I'd rather listen to Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, on a regular basis however. But just to annoy you, Sue, I also saw Scraping Foetus off the Wheel a short while ago. He didn't cancel in Boston, and it was quite the experience. First he filled the *whole* Rat with hot fog. I couldn't see anything except my nose for the whole first song ... and Foetus was only two feet away. I couldn't breathe either. And the lights along with the fog turned the *whole* universe solid colors. A red universe. Red everywhere. Red up. Red down. Red inside my head. Then yellow. Then orange. Then blue. Then red. Eventually the hot fog dissipated enough so that I could see about two feet. Which revealed Jim Foetus weilding a baseball bat and drinking from a bottle of yuppie spring water. He was wearing a "Motorslug" (i.e. Foetus and the guy from the Swans) T-shirt, which he eventually removed, and leather pants which where unfastened and unzipped enough to tell us that his red hair is probably natural. He sang and performed along to the "music", which was all on tape. He kept beating up on the guy next to me (I wasn't wearing an earing), and rolling around on the ground, and climbing up on to the rafters, while screaming about how women suck, or how Christians suck, or how *you* suck, or about how he's going to kill you all. All this time, I was being shoved against the calf-high stage by the crowd, so I was in extreme pain, which was very appropriate. He only played for about half an hour, and the crowd nearly rioted when he didn't do an encore. I managed to grab the half-empty bottle of spring water after he left, and gave it to a drooling fan. I hope the Karma will come back to me some day, and I'll get Kate's Coke can, or something... Before Foetus was Uzi, who were brilliant, as always. Unfortunately they just broke up. One can hope that their already-recorded album will still come out. > [Greg Earle:] > I just scanned through the 1985 Musical Archives. Of all the > entries (over 150 LP's, 12", and 7"), only ONE (that's right, O N E) > was released by a major label (Art Of Noise "Legs" 12" on > Chrysalis). I am conveniently considering Virgin a non-major, > although they sorta are. MORAL: Support your LOCAL INDEPENDENT > Record emporium, down with corporate bullshit music! Well good for you Greggie! But I'd hardly consider any record company which owns their own airline and a record store the size of a Sears to be "independent". But in any case, this attitude of "I'm only going to buy stuff on independent labels" really pisses me off! Support *good* music, no matter what label it is on. If everyone with good taste boycotts major labels then major labels will never carry good music. It will be a self-fulfilling prophecy, and by not buying good music on major labels, you will be actually helping to proliferate junk, rather than helping to get rid of it. (And what's this? You didn't get HoL!) And in regard to Joe Turner's friend in England who was at Comic Relief: For someone who wasn't taking notes and who isn't a fan, he sure managed to imagine some incredibly appropriate arrangements for songs that weren't performed. "That cloud looks like industrial waste" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 03 May 86 16:23 PDT From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: KB and "Journey"...!?! In reference to recent inexplicable comments published recently regarding "Not This Time": first of all I must state flatly that this track sounds absolutely nothing like "Journey". Second, it is extremely similar both in terms of production and song structure to Kate's other anthem-style Hounds of Love b-side, "Burning Bridge". I assume that these two recordings sound so much alike because they represent Kate's quickest and least polished new "demo" style of recording, done in her new studio with the core of her band and a very fast, OTT over-dubbing of her own voice in the huge final choruses. The recording is nevertheless completely unlike anything heard on commercial radio, not only in the strange melodic twists in verse and bridge, but in the disquieting hysteria of the final choruses, as well. Doug has reacted unexpectedly to new Kate Bush material in the past, as with "RUTH"; I am surprised that he hasn't learned that her music often demands a slow assimilation by the listener over time, but that such time is invariably well spent. This is not to say that either "Burning Bridge" or "Not This Time" are crucial parts of the KB oeuvre; only that heated and irrational references to "Journey" are as unwarranted in one case as in the other. P.S.: Have my messages of the past few days been getting through? [][][][][][][][][][] From: ma3166ay Date: Fri, 2 May 86 23:07:03 mdt Subject: Kate CDs Does anyone have a definitive list of all the Kate out on CD? I don't just mean the stuff Green lists, I mean American, Japanese, and British pressings. Here's what I've seen. Hounds of Love (of course, readily available even at the local Sound Whorehouse) The Kick Inside (Japanese -- Kate wearing pink, Japanese liner notes) Lionheart (I just saw it today, but didn't have the * $25 * they wanted for it -- another Japanese import) Of course the rumor was propagated about "The Dreaming" and "Never For Ever" supposedly coming from the new EMI plant in England, but I can't play rumors on my D5 . . . has anyone seen or bought anything other than the three discs listed above, including different versions of the same albums (like TKI with the "Country & Western" cover)? Help! I don't own a turntable or a working cassette deck! I *NEED* more Kate! .rne. ----- Ernie Longmire {{ purdue cmcl2 ihnp4 } !lanl ucbvax } !unmvax!unmc!ma3166ay ----- [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu