Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <1975@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Wed, 14-May-86 23:06:46 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1975 Posted: Wed May 14 23:06:46 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 16-May-86 03:47:13 EDT Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 326 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Wednesday, May 14, 1986, 23:07 EDT Today's Topics: Madonna's Wazzoo / Moody Blues Butthole Surfers redux Message from Sussex French interview 2 New Love-Hound? Thanks, and a comment... [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 10 May 86 11:34:00 PST From: "ROSSI J.A." Subject: Madonna's Wazzoo / Moody Blues Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." I was subjected to sitting through the first half of the top 20 countdown last night on MTV. While watching I made several observations. First, Madonna is, in my opinion, becomming one of the least attractive female performers doing commercial music today. I don't know about her new look, but I wouldn't want to go near her Wazzoo for fear of transmission of the severe acne problem she is obviously having. Sean looks happy, she looks wretched. Maybe he's wearing her out. At any rate, if she maintains her present appearance she should probably change her name to something like Benzoila. Secondly, it is hard to believe that the Moody Blues still sound the same as they did in 1968. What's really amazing is the fact that Hayward and Lodge look older than the president. Eventually, one would expect that androgens will catch up with Lodge's larynx, and his voice will change. 'Gerbiling - The paws that refreshes' [This is an example of sick humor] John ------ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 10 May 86 13:21:50 EDT From: Brutal Econo Subject: Butthole Surfers redux Item: The Butthole Surfers, 80 minute video from Touch and Go Records. Recorded: Late Febuary, Early March 1985 at TRAXX in DEtroit. Summary: Fascinating! Worth the dollars ($24 PPD to be exact). . This is a band that puts _ALOT_ of "professional, serious" bands to ever-loving shame. . This is a band that it's trendy to like, not because of their music but because of the antics of their front man and his acidic and bent vision. . FACT: Forget the antics, the Buttholes play the most intense acid rock (and by "acid rock" I don't neccesarily mean 60's retread, merely the state of "acid rock" today) ever heard to this day and anyone who disagrees can eat Gibby's shorts (Gib being the vocal psychotic who sings most of their songs). . The songs here are rejoined by shots of the band in a hotel bed (like John and Yoko) doing the best parody of band interviews ever seen and even improvising a song on the spot ending with a roistorious "Blow the Man Down" chorus. Has to be seen to be believed. . How to describe the music? Here's what I've jotted down after watching this: "a strange (I mean STRANGE) assortment of non-influences, anti- influences strung together by spontaneous musical experiments both hilarious and terrifying as well as human beat-box blats, on-stage industriotronicstapetricks, beat generation pointers by the dozen, a real live Sousaphone players, Jesus Christ, nudity, two inhumanly savage African style drummers, a guitarist that acts like Robin did when he was captured by Catwoman and put on drugs all fronted by this hardcore Zippy The Pinhead, who just 70 years ago would have gone no further then either becoming the village idiot or a solitary confinement case" . Last jam of the edited version puts the 80's Grateful Dead to shame. . Believe it or not, this isn't a vanity video. Gibby and the others come off somewhat sad, pathetic and moronic. Touch and Go didn't pull any punches. . This video comes with a clear, one-sided 5 inch plastic (not flexi) disk of "American Women" (remember Grand Funk?) done live. . If you wait long enough after the credits, my version had a nude version of "I shot the pope" wherein Gibby had his PJ's stolen by a bunch of skins. This looks to be an older incarnation of the band and reeks of bootleg quality. I figure it was stuck on long after the credits to divert any PMRC attention (not that it won't get any) away from it. It's kind of sad to see an audience take the guys clothes away. He apparently didn't appreciate it but kept on playing anyway. Talk about "On with the Show" and all. . This is also the best line-up they've ever had. Since then they've lost the girl drummer and the bassist (who seemed to have the second strongest personality of the group). . All their "hits" are included as well as very, very raw versions of To Parter and Mexican Caravan which showed up on the EP of last year, "Cream Corn ..." . Great introduction to the rock band of the 80's. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 10 May 86 11:14 PDT From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: Message from Sussex The message printed below was sent directly to me from Sussex, England (aren't these computers amazing?!) by Hugh Maher, one of our star American KT fans. He says he hasn't yet figured out how to send to Love-Hounds. He gave me the following ID #, for those who know what it means and want to write to him: ssud3%uk.ac.sussex.vax2@ucl-cs.arpa I was particularly interested in your posting because of the CD information. I have a sony D-5 compact player which I bought about a year and a half ago, once I knew I was going to be coming over here to study for a year. I really wanted to get one right away, but wanted one that I could use in the U.S., but then also bring over here for a year and be able to plug into the wall sockets. The D-7 at the time was the only portable player, and I needed a portable player (i.e. runs on 9-V direct current) to be able to do this. I was actually visiting Berkeley over the Easter break, and I bought one of the new sony D-7's which is really great. (I'm going to sell my D-5 over here, since the CD player prices are about twice what they are back home)(In fact, the CD's themselves are also about twice as much! Lots of Value added taxes and stuff) Anyway, that wasn't the whole point of writing! You mentioned that all the Hounds of Love CD's were Japanese made, which is true. However, there were two Japanese pressings, which are very different (at least if you are sort of picky...) The first one was sort of a "Rush job" by EMI, who wanted a simultaneous release in Europe and the UK of the album and the CD. So I think they ordered it pressed long before the album was pressed. The reason I'm sure of this is because I saw several Japanese second pressings of HoL (presumably for domestic Japanese release - i.e. later), which are different in that: 1) They exactly resemble the album artwork, e.g. the "Kate Bush" and "Hounds of Love" calligraphy is off-center, whereas on the original pressing, they are lined up, and in black print. (they are pink on the Japanese CD) (In fact, I saw a "proof" of the original artwork for the album, which exactly matches the original Jap CD. I guess they decided to revise the artwork after the orig. CD had been pressed.) 2) The quote on the back is credited as to "The Holy Grail" on the original CD, but is correctly replaced with "The Coming of Arthur" on the Japanese 2nd pressing. 3) The actual label on the CD is totally different, with the standardized "toshiba-emi" layout and print, rather than the UK calligraphy. 4) The song titles on the back of the JapCD are in different colors - I think the 1st side is printed in black, and the second in gold or something. 4) The tone colors used in the photos are lighter in the Jap ones, and more light pink, rather than purple. There are probably more differences, depending upon how picky there are probably more differences, depending upon how picky you want to be! I could probably get you one if you are interested. I've never seen the U.S. cover photo on a CD yet. Maybe when they open the Capitol-Emi plants in the US and Canada? Are they open yet? There's supposed to be one in England (at Swindon) operating now, but I havn't noticed anything yet, such as CD's of The Dreaming and Never Forever. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 10 May 86 12:23 PDT From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: French interview 2 French KT interview, PART TWO: Y.B.: The impression your album leaves, ten minutes after listening to it, is this profusion of voices and percussion. K.B.: That's very interesting. The voices are of capital importance for me. They allow me to express the story of the song in different degrees. I care very deeply about my lyrics. What bothers me is what you just said on the subject of percussion... Y.B.: If I could use only one word to describe your music, it would be: psycho-analytic. K.B.: There's another fascinating observation. I'm certain that everyone who writes, all artists, are very analytical. Often, that's what expresses their most destructive side. Tony Hancock {Goon Squad comedian very popular in the early 60s} is a perfect example: he was a remarkable actor, who ended up by examining himself, criticizing himself so much that he destroyed himself. It's something that exists in each one of us, but which one must succeed in mastering, otherwise one risks going mad. When writing, every time, one is really obliged to analyse the things one is talking about. That's the essence of the creative process. Y.B.: Often you do not hesitate in crossing the limits of hysteria. "Running Up That Hill", and even more, "Hounds of Love", are two good examples. K.B.: In "Hounds of Love" there's an energy of despair, yes. It's about someone terrified, who is searching for a way to escape something. My voice, and the entire production, are directed towards the expression of that terror. Y.B.: Could you clarify "Running Up That Hill" a bit more than the lyrics do? K.B.: A man and a woman love each other enormously, so much so that the power of their love is the source of their problems. Briefly, if they could make a pact with God to exchange their roles, the man becoming the woman and the woman the man, they would understand each other better and would resolve their differences. Y.B.: From a first listening, one gets the idea that it's with God that want to switch roles... K.B.: There are several people who have heard something of that sort. THERE's a good reason for doing this interview, if one needed one. Tell them that I would never dare imagine such an exchange. Y.B.: "Cloudbursting" {sic}, the second English single, is also tricky, for those who haven't done the same reading as you. K.B.: It's a song with a very American inspiration, which draws its subject from "A Book of Dreams" by Peter Reich. The book was written as if by a child who was telling of his strange and unique relationship with his father. They lived in a place called Organon, where the father, a respected psycho-analyst, had some very advanced theories on Vital Energy; furthermore, he owned a rain-making machine, the Cloudbuster. His son and he loved to use it to make it rain. Unfortunately, the father is imprisoned because of his ideas. In fact, in America, in that period, it was safer not to stick out. The drama: the father dies in prison. From that point on, his son becomes unable to put up with an orthodox lifestyle, to adapt himself. The song evokes the days of happiness when the little boy was making it rain with his father. Y.B.: Dreams form an important part of your preoccupations, at first glance. K.B.: It's that there exists only a very fine barrier between them and reality. Y.B.: With this difference, that your dreams rarely make the headlines of newspapers! K.B.: It doesn't go that far, you're right. But dreams are essential to humanity. Y.B.: That's what the whole second side of Hounds of Love talks about? K.B.: More the struggle brought about by the need to stay awake, when it would be so easy to fall asleep. It's the story of someone who is in the sea, at night, and the experiences through which they pass in order to emerge a better person by morning. I'm making a long story short. END OF PART TWO [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 10 May 86 12:28 PDT From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: New Love-Hound? Has anyone tried to contact Stephen Rabjohn from Canada, who was listed in the latest KBC Newsletter Pen Pals section as wanting to try communicating by computer? I'd try myself, only I don't know the first thing about how to link up with his computer. He "would like to contact anyone out there on a VM/SP or MVS computer system, and his ID is ACPS0984@RYERSON. [][][][][][][][][][] From: ma3166ay Date: Wed, 7 May 86 19:47:42 mdt Subject: Thanks, and a comment... Many thanks to all for the quick replies on what Kate has out on CD. I saw the "original cover" version of TKI at a CD shop here in town the other day and am debating getting it for completeness' sake, but that would totally blow my "impoverished student" excuse for not owning a turntable, wouldn't it? :-) Now a quick comment on the current "Organon" debate . . . before I heard all the tidbits about Orgone and so forth, it was my impression that "Organon" was merely the song's narrator's "childish" mispronounciation of "Oregon". The only backup I have for this theory is the copy of "The Oregon Times" that appears in the CBusting video, but I stick to my theory until I hear different from an authoritative source, of which there can be but one in this debate . . . .rne. ----- Ernie Longmire {{ purdue cmcl2 ihnp4 } !lanl ucbvax } !unmvax!unmc!ma3166ay ----- [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu