Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <2139@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Fri, 30-May-86 05:57:36 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.2139 Posted: Fri May 30 05:57:36 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 31-May-86 00:08:15 EDT Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 298 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Friday, May 30, 1986, 05:59 EDT Topics: More KTrivia Few thingz The sweetness of Phenyl-kate-onurics Empty-V Does it Again Ministry's "TWITCH" /// Themes For `Grind' The night Chicago died Re: Love-Hounds Digest (2 msgs) Fairlights [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 24 May 86 16:01 PDT From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: More KTrivia The June issue of Blitz Magazine (glossy trend-oriented monthly alot like The Face) has printed an interview with Peter Gabriel, in which the interviewer was understandably (though not necessarily correctly) disillusioned by what he/she saw as the disposability of So. He/she also said that the vocal contribution by Kate (whom he/she calls "our only genius") was the best thing on the album, and was frustrated to find that, when told this to his face, Gabriel just smiled and "appreciated" that point of view. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 25 May 86 02:09:04 edt From: Joe Turner Subject: Few thingz Anyone ever heard of "The Naughty Sweeties"? Can anyone tell me anything about them? Also - flipping through my old albums, I noticed a particularly worn disc. I realised it was one of my old standards from my young days as a tot - an obscure band from (of all places) Israel, with the very unlikely name of "Poogy". It's early 70s rock, with a tip-o'-the-hat to The Allman Bros. and "Abbey Road"-style Beatles. If you find any of their records (on the Hed-Arzi label) for $2 and can handle Hebrew lyrics, check 'em out. They're pretty catchy, quite competant, and rather overlooked. (I know this might be better for net.music, but we're just getting netnews here at UMB and are very limited in who we can send/receive to/from) ALSO - If you can find the Peter Gabriel bootleg "Games Without Words", do so. There is a song called "Instrumental #2" on there that sounds SURPRISINGLY like "We Do What We're Told" from _So_. And it's much better, too. (So much for "new" PG music these days... that song is 6 YEARS OLD!) Mega-review of SO to come, once I stop bouncing off the walls about it. "I hear that voice again" Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- PAPER: Joe Turner, 329 Ward Street, Newton Centre MA 02159 SOUND WAVES: (617)/965-8058 <* NOTE NEW NUMBER *> CSNET: cutter@umass-boston.csnet ARPA : umb!cutter@csnet-relay.arpa UUCP : {decvax,ima,linus,sri-unix}!cca!ringwld!cutter ---------------------------------------------------------- [][][][][][][][][][] Return-Path: EMAILDEV%UKACRL.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA Via: UK.AC.SUSX.VAX2; 25 MAY 86 16:28:29 BST Date: 25-MAY-1986 16:21:21 From: SSUD3%UK.AC.SUSSEX.VAX2@AC.UK I hope I'm not entering into the CD/LP wars too late, but the arpanet gateway in London has been down for a while, and I only just got the postings today. The only point I wanted to make was that, apart from all the technical pros and cons that were pointed out, one function that the CD provides is RELATIVELY much better audio for the AVERAGE LISTENER. What good are transient frequencies or whatever to a person who normally listens on a Tandy tape deck? (Hope there are no Radio Shack employees out there!) Ultra-audiophile systems are great for those who can afford them, but for the rest of us, CD's provide "a lifetime of listening pleasure" or whatever that crappy slogan is on the back of the WEA packaging.... On the other hand, is there any truth to the rumors that the plastic used in the discs themselves will self-destruct after 10 years due to smog/atmospheric conditions, or what have you? Or is this just another viscious rumor spread by the LP proponents? Paranoid in Brighton, Hugh [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 25 May 86 17:18 PDT From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: The sweetness of Phenyl-kate-onurics The L.A. Times gave So a rave review, singling out Kate Bush's singing on "Don't Give Up" as one of the highpoints. Only "Big Time" was criticized as too simple a funk/r'n'b arrangement, with a protest theme too obviously presented. Everything else was seen as great. Hmmmm... I finally picked out Peter Morris in Kate's "Big Sky" film, thanks to Doug's hint that he plays a pilot. In fact there are at least three pilots, all wearing fighter pilot caps and goggles, and Peter is recognizable for an instant on the far left, as the camera pans by the group. Now, the only crucial question is whether one of the pairs of goggles is the same as that worn by Kate during her performance of "Lionheart" in the Hammersmith video. (You will remember that one of that pair's lenses was cracked...) Doug has already noted a reference to the Lionheart LP in the film, and I see an allusion to the "Dreaming" film in the falcon sequence from "The Big Sky".The astronauts, of course, can be seen as an echo of "Hello Earth." Perhaps there are more references to be found. Does anyone know of any previous reference in Kate's work to either Superman or Napoleon? I assume they are merely references to flight -- Napoleon's symbol being the eagle -- and thus to the sky. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 26 May 86 16:43:09 edt From: Joe Turner Subject: Empty-V Does it Again I received the following on my answering machine today, the 26th: "Hi Joe. This James [my brother]. It's about 1:20 [am] and I just wanted to let you know that MTV is showing "Big Sky" right now. God, it's weird! Just thought you should know." Hmm. Seems they have a two-hour "new [hah!] music" show these days, from 12 to 2am on Sundays. Right after "Big Sky", they showed a Jane Siberry video. Hmm! And I *still* haven't seen the damn thing yet. Oh sigh. "I hear that voice again" Save your parity bits for big cash prizes! Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- PAPER: Joe Turner, 329 Ward Street, Newton Centre MA 02159 SOUND WAVES: (617)/965-8058 <<* NOTE NEW NUMBER *>> CSNET: cutter@umass-boston.csnet ARPA : umb!cutter@csnet-relay.arpa UUCP : {decvax,ima,linus,sri-unix}!cca!ringwld!cutter ---------------------------------------------------------- [][][][][][][][][][] Subject: Ministry's "TWITCH" /// Themes For `Grind' Date: Mon, 26 May 86 13:49:56 -0700 From: J. Peter Alfke I saw "TWITCH" (new Ministry album) today and, remembering Doug's reccom- mendation, picked it up -- it's spinning around right now. Hmmmmmmm. Definite must-listen for any Cabaret Voltaire types. It will take a few more rotations to sink in, but I like it already. Doug, have you been keeping up with Ministry? I bought their first album, but nothing since then -- when did they (he) stop doing stuff like "Work For Love" (mediocre synth-disco) and start doing this? (Actually, I do recognize "All Day" -- KROQ was playing it quite a bit some months ago. Still a good song.) ////////////// Industrial-music types, as well as those who are complaining that synths are too sterile, have too limited a sound, should try to dig up Will Sergeant's "Themes For `Grind'" album. Sergeant, you may recall, is the guitarist of the Bunnymen, but this is nothing like their music. The pieces here are bleak industrial soundscapes with incredibly *unusual*, *dirty*, *rough* synth sounds throughout. Music to wander through deserted factories at night by. A truly chilling experience. On the not-even-miniscule "92 Happy Customers" label. Good luck. --Peter Alfke alfke@csvax.caltech.edu "Grind starts the generator the wheel turns the small screen flickers" [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 27 May 86 19:12:45 EDT From: nessus (Doug Alan) Subject: The night Chicago died Your humble pseudo-moderator is going away to Chicago for a week to visit his purty little cousin and aunt and uncle. While he is away, Love-Hounds will be running totally on autopilot. Hopefully the winds will not be too turbulent and everything will run smoothly by itself, and the noble Love-Hounds readers will not flame to any excess which would cause your humble pseudo-moderator to put his third foot down (no, no you have dirty minds... Puppeteers have three feet) and say "Cut out the crap, you bozos" if he were here. "And we pause for the jets" Doug [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 29 May 86 00:19 EDT From: Tavares@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest Whoa, hof! Ya slandered Tomita, and woke me up! (You did it a week ago, but who's counting?) Tomita may be a "pretentious asshole" to you, but I feel the man was an early force in bringing the synth into its own as a serious musical choice. (Much more consistent than the lighter stuff W. Carlos was doing at about that time.) In my opinion, if you have not heard Tomita's renditions of Stravinsky, you have not heard Stravinsky. I like to think that Stravinsky wrote his stuff expressly for the synth, but since it hadn't been invented yet, he had to do the best he could with more primitive things like horsehair, catgut, rosin, felt, steel, goldbeater skin, brass, etc. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 29 May 86 00:43 EDT From: Tavares@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest All this discussion about Hi-NRG music. So far, the only hints I have gleaned from this list is that it is linked to the gay culture and uses a lot of synths. Could somebody please give me some example of Hi-NRG bands or cuts so that I can place what it is you are categorizing? (Maybe you could pick some that are VERY commercial, so that I will have had a good chance to hear them. I'm too far into Rural America to DQ yer collitch stations n'all. Not QUITE out into Paul Harvey land, but you get the idea.) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 27 May 86 11:16:03 EDT From: John Lorch Subject: Fairlights There seems to be some mis-information on the subject of the Fairlight C.M.I. (computer musical instrument, methinks. The Fairlight is a synthesizer. It was originally designed to be the state of the art synthi, and the quite overused sampling section was tacked on the last minute. It is not just a sampling keyboard like the Emulator or Mirage - it does synthesis quite well. I've never been lucky enough to play one (only seen one once), but I have a friend who uses one in a class. I'll approach him for more info. Oh, yeah, I nearly forgot. Someone mentioned in a previous L.H. that KB used a Harmonizer on Waking the Witch. My guess is that it was the Fairlight sampling section - record her lines, then slow them down to lower the pitch. Does anyone have any input on this theory? [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu