Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ucbvax!SCRC-YUKON.ARPA!Margulies From: Margulies@SCRC-YUKON.ARPA (Benson I. Margulies) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Port Collisions Message-ID: <860514145254.9.MARGULIES@REDWING.SCRC.Symbolics.COM> Date: Wed, 14-May-86 14:52:00 EDT Article-I.D.: REDWING.860514145254.9.MARGULIES Posted: Wed May 14 14:52:00 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 15-May-86 23:55:22 EDT References: <8605141747.AA04242@isi-braden.arpa> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 39 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Date: Wed, 14 May 86 10:47:27 PDT From: braden@isi-braden.arpa (Bob Braden) It sounds like another version of the SNA/DECNET free-enterprise protocol wars. Do you think we should encourage the proliferation of private protocols, many of them doing the same things? It is clearly in the national interest (that's us, friends) to promote maximal interconnection of heterogeneous systems. That is what standards are for. Not all protocols are suitable for standardization. Sometimes, there isn't enough knowledge in the industry to settle on a standard. We can't be expected to wait around. Some protocols perform very specific functions that are pointless to standardize. Heavily networked products are very likely to involve network protocols that are not useful outside a particular application. Yet these have to have ports, and those ports can't conflict with other, interoperating protocols. Until recently, in England there were several different standards for electric plugs, because each of the 19th century power barons designed their own. So you bought an appliance with a cord but no plug on the end, and added the plug necessary for your outlet. Rather like a configuration file, isn't it? This is why I'm opposed to the configuration file solution. As a customer, do you think I should buy a software system from a vendor that did not have the resources to properly document its internal function? I wonder what kind of maintenance and support I will get with that product. The statement `did not have the resources' is not a realistic view. As a customer, I'd rather my vendor spent their (my) money on supporting me, not informing the internet community about the network protocols in their product.