Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!ucbvax!USC-ISIB!Chase From: Chase@USC-ISIB (Dale Chase) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: {8605.0428} oh mr. postman ... Message-ID: <[USC-ISIB.ARPA]28-May-86.01:04:26.CHASE> Date: Wed, 28-May-86 04:04:00 EDT Article-I.D.: <[USC-ISIB.ARPA]28-May-86.01:04:26.CHASE> Posted: Wed May 28 04:04:00 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 28-May-86 19:29:43 EDT References: <12210165659.6.MRC@SIMTEL20.ARPA> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 22 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa I think the NIC (and probably domain registries) has a unique need to accept mail from unknown hosts, which doesn't apply to hosts in general. The problem with blithely accepting mail with unknown hostnames in the MAIL FROM:<...> control line is that the server is accepting responsibility to either deliver the mail or return a negative acknowledgement. If such a piece of mail turns out to be undeliverable, it does indeed go to the dead letter mailbox. At this point, if the postmaster is good and the phase of the moon is right, the mail will either be forwarded to the intended recipient or returned to the originator. But if the adresses are sufficiently esoteric, the mail just gets dropped (I can remember pre-SMTP days as a Tenex operator when a periodic task was flushing the dead letter mailbox to keep it from overflowing. I wouldn't be surprised if this still happens in some places). And the sender is left wondering why he didn't get an answer to his urgent request. As Joel said, we prefer the originator be notified of the potential problem immediately so it can be straightened out. In this manner, problem resolution is pushed to the most local point possible relative to problem's source. In other words, the user or administrator at site XX is more likely to know that a piece of mail from mumble@frob should really be mumble%frob@XX. <>Dale