Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!ucbvax!USC-ISI.ARPA!CERF From: CERF@USC-ISI.ARPA Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Adaptive SMTP Timeouts Message-ID: <[USC-ISI.ARPA]29-May-86.21:28:26.CERF> Date: Thu, 29-May-86 21:28:00 EDT Article-I.D.: <[USC-ISI.ARPA]29-May-86.21:28:26.CERF> Posted: Thu May 29 21:28:00 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 31-May-86 15:45:00 EDT References: <8605291015.AA16996@sering.uucp> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 22 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa Doug, In the complex internet environment, round-trip variations can be significant, depending on the paths taken, the satellite hops, congestion, various failures, and so on. Under jamming conditions, bandwidths drop to increase S/N and also increase delays (unfortunately). At least with respect to DoD objectives, the system has to work even if its parameters exceed the nominally desired limits. Consequently, many of us have been reluctant to rely on any fixed maxima if we can find ways to measure and adapt instead. I don't disagree that it would be easier to declare some maximum and in some instances (e.g. the 576 octet IP packet size which all subsystems must carry without fragmentation) we have done so. But with respect to dynamic parameters such as round-trip time, we have tried hard not to allow ourselves to be bequiled by the apparent simplicity of declared limits. There may well be some other dissenting opinions on this point out there in the diverse world which makes up this interest group, but I believe I am stating the principal view of those of us concerned for DoD requirements. Vint