Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!ucbvax!SU-NAVAJO.ARPA!mogul From: mogul@SU-NAVAJO.ARPA (Jeff Mogul) Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: more interesting features of 4.2 ("ARP Hack") Message-ID: <8606050253.AA00383@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 4-Jun-86 15:56:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8606050253.AA00383 Posted: Wed Jun 4 15:56:00 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Jun-86 09:24:36 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 23 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa I just reread the relevant section of 917, and in fact Mogul says that ARP-based subnetting is a reasonable strategy. Actually, about the nicest thing I said about it is that it is "somewhat unsatisfactory." I certainly did not intend this to be an excuse for IP vendors who aren't willing/able to get their acts together. Granted, this is less annoying than those hosts which spray broadcasts all over everything, or those that try to act as gateways when they aren't supposed to, but it really isn't that hard to get this right. I also (now) regret the term "ARP-based subnetting", for its implication that ARP is in any way central to the use of subnets. I don't have a perfect term, but something like "ARP-compatible subnetting" or "subnet-extended ARP" would be less misleading. I sure wish people who design widely-used IP implementations would test their bright ideas on the Internet community before shipping half a million workstations. -Jeff P.S.: Noel, you warned me.