Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!ucbvax!MITRE-GATEWAY.ARPA!louden From: louden@MITRE-GATEWAY.ARPA.UUCP Newsgroups: mod.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: RFC986 questions Message-ID: <8606121253.AA11410@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 12-Jun-86 08:10:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8606121253.AA11410 Posted: Thu Jun 12 08:10:17 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Jun-86 19:28:18 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 31 Approved: tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa If the goal is to allow both ISO and DoD on the ARPANET, why not use the same link level and different net levels? This would be compatable with both protocols since X.25 is in both. Connecting the two worlds can then be done at the applications level by application gateways that understand what is needed, such as X.400 to SMTP. The issue of gateways can be handled by implementing both DoD and ISO net level protocols and selecting the one that makes sense for a packet, such as checking version number is correct. This method works in a well defined way (all the protocols are spec.ed) and does not require the large development effort to be wasted on a tempory patch until a complete transition is made. Note that changing to ISO net layer requires all hosts to modify their software even if they will be replaced before the network converts fully to ISO. Dual mode operation would only require gateways connection dual mode networks to be modified. This sounds cheeper to me. To my knowledge there are at least 3 organizations working on this solution. The largest and best funded is the NBS effort to develop a standard application gateway. This has been discussed at the NBS ISO workshops. ... Sorry I cannot reply directly to you because we are using a BBN C70 with the standard release software. This does not support domain addresses other than .ARPA. BBN says they will fix as soon as they can but it is an example of the problems in requiring a conversion in existing protocols. It sometimes takes more time and money than you have.