Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!ut-sally!seismo!gatech!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucdcsp!bsmith From: bsmith@uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Against the Tide of Common LISP Message-ID: <8700002@uiucdcsp> Date: Thu, 26-Jun-86 17:37:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcsp.8700002 Posted: Thu Jun 26 17:37:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 30-Jun-86 03:14:11 EDT References: <830@bu-cs.UUCP> Lines: 12 Nf-ID: #R:bu-cs.UUCP:830:uiucdcsp:8700002:000:694 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU!bsmith Jun 26 16:37:00 1986 It seems incredible to me that anyone would prefer Franz Lisp over Common Lisp. I recently had to convert a natural language front-end written in Franz on a vax to Common Lisp on a Symbolics. It was a nightmare I hope I never have to go through again. Functions continuously mentioned variables that were defined in other files (the program was spread out across 6 files). There was no way to know what was happening at any given time without extensive comments (which were missing). I never appreciated lexical scoping more than I did then. If Common Lisp is the dark ages compared to Franz Lisp, then I plan on being very happy in my monastery surrounded by Symbolics and Explorers.