Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!caip!lll-crg!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!cositex!bubba!san From: san@bubba.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Re: 1.2 Updates: Lattice libraries Message-ID: <173@bubba.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-May-86 12:22:19 EDT Article-I.D.: bubba.173 Posted: Fri May 30 12:22:19 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 2-Jun-86 16:57:01 EDT References: <8605201910.AA23292@pavepaws> <269@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> <1158@well.UUCP> <1162@well.UUCP> <524@3comvax.UUCP> Organization: COSI Texas, Austin, Texas Lines: 61 Perhaps all of my opinions have been expressed at some other time, but what the hell, I'll take that chance, so... here's some rambling! My background with the Amiga is as follows, I am a registered developer (via buying the developers machine from CBM) and have been so since late '85. Because of this, I can only speak from that point of view, while venturing opinions on other peoples situation. I have appreciated all of the efforts that the technical (and other) staff at CBM have made to help developers. It appears that there may be some confusion as to what qualifies as a developer and/or what qualifies as a supported developer, etc. Perhaps the clarification was not made up front, I dont know, but I've seen it here on the net recently. It appears to me that if you consider the $450 package from CBM to be like any other commercial software package, their support policy is very generous, and in fact appears to be better than most. I am very happy with the level of support (which includes updates) I have received from CBM. They have been prompt with updates, their technical staff is easily accessible (and in fact many of them were reached by calling CBM and asking for people I saw on the net (y'all are doubly appreciated !)), and in general I don't have any complaints. Please note that I am NOT differentiating between the people in WestChester or Los Gatos, because I haven't been keeping a score card on indiviuals or groups, but just one scorecard on the whole ball-of-wax, i.e. lets not start prophesing doom just because the people in Pa. are now taking up the reins. Concerning the issues of layoffs, unquestionably it is disappointing, but I (for one) will not pretend to be familiar with Commodores whole situation, from the outside it is disappointing that these people will not be working with Commodore anymore, and can there be any question that the people we have all heard of will be missed in many ways? Unfortunately, it (seems to be) that the nature of business is such that a large number of issues must be dealt with, and that what may appear to us as a mistake, may be in Commodores best interest. On the other hand, they could be *royally* screwing up , I don't know, I just don't have enough info. (and probably never will, as I'm not "tight" with people inside Commodore :-). I don't intend to sound like someone merrily skipping to whatever beat they provide me with, but I do wish to say I'm generally happy w/CBM. I don't envy their position, CBM is a company trying to do the things which most other companies in the US do, compete, make a profit and stay alive (to list a few). I seriously doubt that anyone who is trying to develop for the Amiga could claim to have not at least suspected that CBM was shaky, that was an issue way back in the middle of '85, as it is now. To anyone who feels strongly about issues w/CBM, I seriously suggest that you write to someone at CBM (such as the CEO/President). Posting psuedo-political articles on the net is usefull, but I rather doubt that the top management reads USENET. After all of this serious writing, I can't help wondering whether any one of us could get this stirred up over an IBM-PC... &-} Steve -- Steve Sanderson, COSI Texas 4412 Spicewood Springs, Suite 801 Austin, Texas 78759 UUCP: {ihnp4, seismo, ctvax}!ut-sally!cositex!san, san@cositex.UUCP AT&T: (512) 345-2780