Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!caip!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mic From: mic@ut-ngp.UUCP (Mic Kaczmarczik) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Re: 1.1/1.2 Console Driver Bug... Message-ID: <3573@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Thu, 26-Jun-86 09:50:36 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.3573 Posted: Thu Jun 26 09:50:36 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Jun-86 08:37:55 EDT References: <45@mit-prep.ARPA> <450@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Reply-To: mic@ngp.UUCP (Mic Kaczmarczik) Organization: UTexas Computation Center, Austin, Texas Lines: 46 In article <450@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes: >> and useful features have been added. It annoyed me a bit, though, >> that Commodore put their copyright on the public domain version >> of MicroEMACS. I find this rather tasteless. Fortunately, their >> version doesn't seem to be any better than v30 with intuition >> driver. > >The version of MicroEMACS has a copyright notice because its copyrighted. >It descended from an old version of a public-domain MicroEmacs, I think it >was called 0.1. Andy Finkel here at Commodore made extensive modifications >to the program to the point where it is certainly a different program. If >a program's in the public domain, you're free to use parts or all of it in >your own program, whether commercial or another freebie. If the program >were instead copyrighted shareware or something like that, then Andy would >most likely have had to seek permission from the original author. > >Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh While I'll agree with Dave that you can do anything you want to a public domain program, including copyrighting a modified version, I think it's still rather tasteless in this case. Although Andy certainly did a lot of good work adding some useful features, the main editing system doesn't seem to have been changed a whole lot. At least that's my impression; please correct me if I'm wrong. However, I'm not going to worry about it too much. I don't use the Commodore version because 1) it opens up its own screen, which cuts down on the memory I have for editing large files, 2) it's built on an old version of the base editor, 3) the menu items have key bindings built into them (minor, since) 4) you can't bind keys. Besides, v30's latest incarnation will be showing up, hopefully some time before the end of August, with GNU compatibility and more goodies. For those of you who can't wait till then, v30 is available on one of the later Fred Fish Disks (#23??). Mic Kaczmarczik /-------------\ | /---------\ | User Services Digital Support Group | | | | University of Texas at Austin Computation Center | | | | UUCP: ...!ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mic | \_________/ | ARPA: mic@ngp.utexas.edu \_____________/ +----------------------+ |v ----- | +----------------------+