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From: david@looking.UUCP (David Rowley)
Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16,net.micro.68k
Subject: ST Development Systems
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Date: Thu, 26-Jun-86 16:50:42 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jun 26 16:50:42 1986
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Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Waterloo, Ontario
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[munch, munch]

We are looking into doing some development on the ST and are faced with
a problem, finding a development environment that suits our needs.
We are thinking of porting a very large application from the PC to the
ST and need to find a dev. system that can hack it.

We prefer a cross-development system, running under UNIX, but I fear
such a beast does not exist.

Our needs are:  more than 32k static initialized data (we have lots of
tables), a good pre-processor (handles #if defined(X) || defined(Y), etc)
unsigned as an attribute, rather than as a type of int (we need unsigned
chars), a reasonable debugging environment (compatible with SID, or 
better).

Above all this, we need a reliable compiler/linker.  We do NOT want to 
spend our time debugging the tools.

We have looked at Alcyon (which is what we are using until something better
comes along), but alas it is buggy.  SID provides a reasonable debugging
environment.  The compiler and linker are slow, and the resource
construction set bombs routinely.  We have ordered the new release
of Alcyon, and hope that the compiler bugs will be fixed.

We have also looked at Megamax, but it does not support a debugger of any
kind, and debugging with printf's on a project like this does not appeal
to us...  It also does not support more than 32k static initialized data
(we could get around that if we had to)

Ideally we would like the whole system to run under UNIX (Xenix on an AT,
actually), producing a .prg there and then downloading the binary to the
ST.  Has anyone hacked SUMac to work with the ST ?

Am I hoping too much ?  Does anything come close to this ?

Any suggestions would be appreciated,

Regards,
David Rowley
Looking Glass Software
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