Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!topaz!ll-xn!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!disunix.UUCP!jhs From: jhs@disunix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: 520st composit output Message-ID: <8607022017.AA02840@mitre-bedford.ARPA> Date: Wed, 2-Jul-86 16:17:48 EDT Article-I.D.: mitre-be.8607022017.AA02840 Posted: Wed Jul 2 16:17:48 1986 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Jul-86 07:31:04 EDT References: <860701-162634-4288@Xerox> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, MA Lines: 28 Composite signals are made by black magic to fit into a nominal 6 MHz TV channel -- in fact I believe the video portion has to fit into 4.5 MHz. To do this it is necessary to low-pass filter the luminance signal to leave room for the chroma signal, and also to bandpass filter the chroma (or lowpass filter it in baseband form before putting it on the color subcarrier). Anyway, these lowpass operations amount to smearing of detail in the picture or intentionally limiting resolution. Apparently the chroma suffers the worst, which is why in color TV pictures the red areas sometimes appear to be painted on sloppily so they spill outside the area that was supposed to be red. If you could get the baseband luminance signal out of the Atari before it has been filtered, you might get the resolution you desire. I have no data on the circuit, but maybe somebody out there knows if this signal is available to be brought out. I speculate that it may be available somewhere over on the monochrome monitor output. If it is still active somewhere even when you have plugged into the other jack, you may be able to get access to it. Too bad they didn't provide an option of 60-Hz standard monochrome output as well as composite. The other trick that comes to mind is to run your monochrome monitor off the GREEN output of the RGB output. That is supposed to give a reasonable monochrome picture for most normal scenes. Good luck. -John Sangster / jhs@mitre-bedford.arpa