Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!bullwinkle!uw-beaver!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!manis From: manis@ubc-cs.UUCP (Vince Manis) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari16 Subject: Re: Writing Desk Accessories in TDI Modula-2 Message-ID: <259@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-May-86 19:34:54 EDT Article-I.D.: ubc-cs.259 Posted: Tue May 27 19:34:54 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 1-Jun-86 05:33:03 EDT References: <8605111518.AA11708@ohio-state.ARPA> <170@sage.cs.reading.Ac.Uk> Reply-To: manis@ubc-cs.UUCP (Vince Manis) Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science Lines: 21 Simon Gordon, in an exasperated sounding posting, remarks that language implementors are ripping users off by claiming that their languages provide full Gem support when in fact they don't. I must disagree. I have used TDI Modula-2 to write simple programs which use Gem (and they provide a nifty program which uses pretty much all of VDI as a demo). The newest version of TDI Modula-2 (they should be shipping it around now) is supposed to come with a redone version of DRI's Resource Construction Set (different bugs, presumably) and with source code for two desk accessories: a RAMdisk and a print spooler. Similarly, Personal Pascal can be used to write DA's. I don't know how, since I don't use it. But I have seen extensive remarks on this subject on BIX (the BYTE Information eXchange). I believe that OSS will send out information on this stuff to any registered user of the package. There certainly are poor language implementations around (and I have a few gripes about TDI Modula-2). But the vendors *are* trying. Give them credit for that.