Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!enmasse!comm!dave From: dave@comm.UUCP (Dave Brownell) Newsgroups: net.arch,net.micro.att Subject: Re: AT&T MIPS claim Message-ID: <266@comm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-May-86 10:10:55 EDT Article-I.D.: comm.266 Posted: Thu May 29 10:10:55 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 31-May-86 04:36:29 EDT References: <577@scirtp.UUCP> Reply-To: dave@comm.UUCP (Dave Brownell) Distribution: net Organization: EnMasse Computer Corp, Acton, MA Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.arch:3331 net.micro.att:1233 In article <577@scirtp.UUCP> dfh@scirtp.UUCP (David F. Hinnant) writes: > ... They made this interesting claim that the UNIX PC gives > you "75% of the power of a VAX 11/780" for "only 7% of the cost". > Arrgh. ... Is this the MIP rating for the > 68010 as compared to the VAX? Looks like it. One really couldn't ask > for a better example of the Meaningless Index of Performance. I've seen > many a 780 run with more than 20 users. I'd like to see you put that > many on a UNIX PC that I found can barely support one. This is Apples and Oranges ... a MIP, however meaningless, is a CPU benchmark, and a "user" is a rather ill-defined I/O benchmark ... and I do believe the I/O on the 7300 is not up to the CPU. Maybe when someone comes up with a realistic I/O benchmark we can really start comparing UNIX hardware. (Yes, that marketing claim is absurd.) -- Dave Brownell EnMasse Computer Corporation {genrad,harvard}!enmasse!comm!dave