Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ltuxa!ttrdc!levy From: levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) Newsgroups: net.arch,net.micro.att Subject: Re: AT&T MIPS claim Message-ID: <928@ttrdc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 7-Jun-86 12:41:23 EDT Article-I.D.: ttrdc.928 Posted: Sat Jun 7 12:41:23 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Jun-86 05:22:43 EDT References: <577@scirtp.UUCP> <266@comm.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T, Computer Systems Division, Skokie, IL Lines: 28 Xref: watmath net.arch:3391 net.micro.att:1272 In article <266@comm.UUCP>, dave@comm.UUCP (Dave Brownell) writes: >In article <577@scirtp.UUCP> dfh@scirtp.UUCP (David F. Hinnant) writes: >> ... They made this interesting claim that the UNIX PC gives >> you "75% of the power of a VAX 11/780" for "only 7% of the cost". >> Arrgh. ... Is this the MIP rating for the >> 68010 as compared to the VAX? Looks like it. One really couldn't ask >> for a better example of the Meaningless Index of Performance. I've seen >> many a 780 run with more than 20 users. I'd like to see you put that >> many on a UNIX PC that I found can barely support one. >This is Apples and Oranges ... a MIP, however meaningless, is a CPU benchmark, >and a "user" is a rather ill-defined I/O benchmark ... and I do believe >the I/O on the 7300 is not up to the CPU. Maybe when someone comes up >with a realistic I/O benchmark we can really start comparing UNIX hardware. >(Yes, that marketing claim is absurd.) > Dave Brownell > EnMasse Computer Corporation > {genrad,harvard}!enmasse!comm!dave It only appears absurd to those who take it to mean what it doesn't mean. The CPU does have that much 'crunch power'. I/O is a separate animal. -- ------------------------------- Disclaimer: The views contained herein are | dan levy | yvel nad | my own and are not at all those of my em- | an engihacker @ | ployer or the administrator of any computer | at&t computer systems division | upon which I may hack. | skokie, illinois | -------------------------------- Path: ..!{akgua,homxb,ihnp4,ltuxa,mvuxa, vax135}!ttrdc!levy