Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!nike!ucbcad!ucbvax!hplabs!tektronix!reed!nscpdc!lee From: lee@nscpdc.UUCP (Lee Tapper) Newsgroups: net.micro.ns32k Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: National's 32332 (Apples and oranges really) Message-ID: <577@nscpdc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 21-Jun-86 13:54:41 EDT Article-I.D.: nscpdc.577 Posted: Sat Jun 21 13:54:41 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Jun-86 03:45:05 EDT References: <869@hoptoad.uucp> <428@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> Reply-To: lee@nscpdc.UUCP (Lee Tapper) Organization: NSC Portland Development Center, Portland Oregon Lines: 27 In article <428@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes: > >I did say clock speed, STUPID ME. What I MEANT was bus speed, which is one >of the mosy meaningful measures I can come up with, since much of the cost of >a system is based on the speed you run the bus at. A 68000 at 8MHz runs a >2MHz bus, I though that the 8086 at 8MHz was very similar. I don't know the >ratio of clock to bus speed on the 32K series, but I think its more like >5:1 than 4:1; anyone know for sure? Bus speed for the 332 depends on a number of factors. The first is the presence or absence of an MMU. The second is the bus cycle type. The 332 has the ability to take all of it's instruction stream and any misaligned operands in burst mode. In this mode it sends out an address and then gets the next four 32 bit words back to back without using any bus time for additional addresses. This works quite well for nibble mode memory chipsand can speed execution. The ratios of clocks to bus time are as follows : * no MMU, single cycle 3:1 * MMU, single cycle 4:1 * no MMU burst fetch 9:4 Lee Tapper * MMU burst fetch 10:4