Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihlpg!gauldin From: gauldin@ihlpg.UUCP (Mark Gauldin) Newsgroups: net.micro.pc,net.unix Subject: Re: How Good is the AT&T 6300 Plus? Message-ID: <2071@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Jun-86 11:41:35 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpg.2071 Posted: Wed Jun 18 11:41:35 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Jun-86 01:24:43 EDT References: <1927@osu-eddie.UUCP> <350@omen.UUCP> <1286@amiga.amiga.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 102 Xref: watmath net.micro.pc:8725 net.unix:8226 > I haven't seen much on the net about the AT&T 6300 Plus. Can > anyone tell me: > > - how the UNIX available for it compares with versions of UNIX > that run on other micros (in particular, the PC-AT) > > - how IBM-PC compatible it is (does it run all those PC-DOS > applications? Does it accept IBM expansion cards?) > > - how reliable it is > > Both praise and horror stories are most welcome. If you looked > at the 6300 Plus and decided on another machine, can you tell > me why? > > Thanks! > > Mitchell Gass > {decwrl,hplabs}!pyramid!amiga!mitch I had planned to just reply via email, but after seeing some of the other responses on the net, I felt I needed to try to even out the tone. The 6300+ is a 80286-based IBM compatible manufactured by Olivetti for sale by AT&T. It and the 6300 are the same machines that Olivetti markets in Europe (and which are, I believe, the best selling compatibles in Europe). There are three basic configurations available: - dual floppy (not sure what size floppies) - 20Mb hard disk + 360K floppy - 20Mb hard disk + 1.2Mb floppy All three configurations come with 512K RAM on the motherboard and can be expanded to 1Mb by simply plugging 256K chips into empty sockets on the motherboard. There are two keyboards available: an IBM-style (CNTL key by your left pinkie, fcn keys down the left side) and an AT&T (or whatever) style (CNTL key southwest of 'Z', fcn keys across the top). Both keyboards have a mouse port on the back. Both a monochrome (green) and color monitor are available. You can also plug in a 80287 coprocessor chip. The 6300+ comes with MS-DOS 3.1 and GW-BASIC. I have a 6300+, and we have four (soon to be five) others in our department, as well as a number of others throughout our organization. All of them worked right out of the box and we've had no problems since. The hard disk is very fast (my perception, not measured) and very quiet. The 1.2Mb floppy is great - fast, quiet, and you don't have huge piles of disks laying around. We've run the following software packages with no problems: Lotus 123 (both Release 1 and 2) dBase III Sidekick Turbo Lightning Superkey Supernotes Crosstalk XVI Microsoft Windows Desqview Norton Utilities (which gives a performance index of 6.3 times a PC - and yes, I know that's misleading :-)) Harvard Total Project Manager Primavera PC vi The only software I've had any problems with is Fastback, and I suspect that's because Fastback isn't set up to deal with the 1.2Mb drives. We haven't added any expansion boards yet, although we plan to soon. However I do know several people who have added some of the more popular boards to their 6300's (e.g. the AST family, Hayes-type modem boards, etc.) with no problem. UNIX for the 6300+ is UNIX System V Release 2 with OS Merge. OS Merge is a utility that lets you run MS-DOS (or MS-DOS application programs, such as Lotus) as a UNIX process. Files can be traded back and forth between UNIX and DOS, and you can have a DOS-only partition on your hard disk for programs that are copy protected in such a way as to make them incompatible with the joint UNIX/DOS file system (this DOS-only partition is accessible as drive e: when you're running a DOS process). I had a preproduction version of UNIX, but it had the sort of bugs you'd expect in preproduction software, and I'm not currently using it. My production version is on it's way. All in all, I'm very pleased with the 6300+. Yes, I know I work for AT&T, but I'm in a part of the company far removed from PC development or sales and I'm trying to give an honest review as a user. There's no way I'd put myself through the punishment of using a system I didn't like day after day - there are just too many alternatives. Mitch, if you have any other questions, send me email and I'll help if I can. By the way, if you want to see more about the 6300+ (or the 6300, or the 7300) on the net, take a look at net.micro.att. Mark Gauldin AT&T Bell Laboratories ...ihnp4!ihlpg!gauldin (312) 979-5377