Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mercury From: mercury@ut-ngp.UUCP (Larry E. Baker) Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: IBM does an impersonation of itself Message-ID: <3562@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Sun, 22-Jun-86 13:57:58 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.3562 Posted: Sun Jun 22 13:57:58 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Jun-86 03:28:31 EDT References: <17600001@hpccc.UUCP> <11200002@ztivax.UUCP> Organization: University of Texas at Austin Lines: 52 Summary: Comment on Unix/unknowns comment In article <11200002@ztivax.UUCP>, david@ztivax.UUCP writes: > Example: A small consulting company has three engineers, each of > which bills time to customers for PRODUCTIVE work at $150,000 per > year. One engineer has to waste half time keeping a small UNIX > machine going. The little machine (70% VAX performance for 7% cost, > tho not AT&T), cost the company the cost of a nice REAL VAX every two > years. That is alot of dough for a small company. And real money it > was, too. > > In business, you usually cannot AFFORD to fight the "system". Point concieded, with qualifications. Buying a "REAL" VAX does not necessarily imply that this engineer won't end up spending just as much time keeping *it* running. Admittedly, he has a much larger (user) base of experience from which to draw, but knowing Unix... he wouldn't end up saving *that* much more time. This company could have hired some far less expensive administrator to keep up their system; if they're blowing 75K a year by wasting one of their valuable engineers (read: resouces), then the money they lost is not due to the fact that the machine needs so much "more" time for upkeep, but that they are managing their time -- and their company -- badly. I think they could have bought a 35K/year system administrator; if they are actually bringing in 150K/engineer per year, they'd be about 35K ahead. And have a well-managed system, since their SA wouldn't be splitting up his time all over the place. With the money they save here, they could probably buy yet another no-name brand machine, if they needed the added resources. I might also point out that, if they're *not* bringing in 150K/year for all three engineers, that is, that engineer #3 is going to be idle half his time anyway, then they haven't lost anything. Unfortunately, you do have a point about fighting the system. I don't think that in this particurlar case your example holds up, but I agree that, for the most part, it's more cost-effective in the long run to buy a solution that a lot of people are using rather than one that only a few know about and may not be around forever. -- Larry -- Larry Baker Net/UUCP: mercury@ut-ngp.{ARPA, UUCP, UTEXAS.EDU} UT Austin ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mercury Computer Science Local: baker@walt.UTEXAS.EDU -- Larry Baker Net/UUCP: mercury@ut-ngp.{ARPA, UUCP, UTEXAS.EDU} UT Austin ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mercury Computer Science Local: baker@walt.UTEXAS.EDU