Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!husc6!talcott!ci-dandelion!ulowell!dobro From: dobro@ulowell.UUCP (Chet Dobro) Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.origins,net.sci,net.misc,net.philosophy,net.physics,net.followup Subject: Re: A home for discussions on the esoteric, the occult, etc. Message-ID: <354@ulowell.UUCP> Date: Sat, 31-May-86 03:27:48 EDT Article-I.D.: ulowell.354 Posted: Sat May 31 03:27:48 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 2-Jun-86 00:40:35 EDT References: <639@bu-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: dobro@ulowell.UUCP (Chet Dobro) Organization: University of Lowell Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.news.group:5843 net.origins:3173 net.sci:982 net.misc:9744 net.philosophy:5600 net.physics:4419 net.followup:6485 In article <639@bu-cs.UUCP> bzs@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein) writes: > >Has it ever occurred to some of the PSI folks that you've been derided >not because the readers are unreasonable but because most of the notes >you present to the audience constitute completely incompetent drivel >and most of us have seen far better on the subject that we have disagreed >with (or agreed with?) Presuming oppression or parochialism is such >a comfortable and puerile position to create for yourself (Hey, look MA! >we're misunderstood! We *must* be right!) That's one of the points that I plan to bring up in my first posting. > >I for one am sympathetic to PSI, I just think a discussion of even the >most minimal quality has yet to get started, as far as I can see all we >get is a bunch of defensive psycho-babble with a few laced together >buzzwords all of a distinctly adolescent bent (like the above quote.) That is going to be one of the major uses for the group: the comparison and finalizing of defintions. The determining of criterion, etc. > >I've spent years speaking with people and reading about subjects like >Crowley, the Kabbala (I was raised by "Kabbalists"), PSI etc, nah, I >haven't seen anything yet on these lists worthy of discussion, the quality >is zip. > Well, we'll see... Gryphon