Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!caip!think!harvard!cmcl2!lanl!gjk From: gjk@lanl.ARPA (Greg) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.misc,net.rumor Subject: How bad the attacks on cities were in World War II Message-ID: <4259@lanl.ARPA> Date: Sun, 15-Jun-86 10:48:49 EDT Article-I.D.: lanl.4259 Posted: Sun Jun 15 10:48:49 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Jun-86 22:46:25 EDT References: <133@petrus.UUCP> <513@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: gjk@a.UUCP (Greg) Distribution: net Organization: Los Alamos Lines: 22 Xref: watmath net.politics:16837 net.misc:9816 net.rumor:2703 In article <457@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> davidra@batcomputer.UUCP (Penguin (Rabson)) writes: >I've heard a rumor that Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as bad as they were, made >everyone forget about Dresden, where more people died equally awful deaths. > >Is this true? > >The moral is that war was at least as bad before Trinity as after. No, more people died in Hiroshima than in Dresden. The most common estimate I've heard for Dresden is 40,000 deaths, while for Hiroshima it is 100,000 deaths. I don't know what the figures are for Nagasaki. It is true that more people died in Tokyo during the war than in Hiroshima. However, what these bombings have made everyone forget about is Leningrad, where more people died than in Hiroshima + Nagasaki + Tokyo + Dresden + Hamburg + Berlin + London plus many other cities. Many of us in the US think that war is only bad when we or our allies kill people. In fact, many of us outside of the US think this way. In fact, altogether too many people think this way. -- Greg gjk%a@lanl.arpa and greg@harvard.harvard.edu