Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!caip!ut-sally!seismo!gatech!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!cbosgd!osu-eddie!zwicky From: zwicky@osu-eddie.UUCP (Elizabeth D. Zwicky) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: Writing, programming, music and mechanics Message-ID: <1982@osu-eddie.UUCP> Date: Wed, 25-Jun-86 09:01:02 EDT Article-I.D.: osu-eddi.1982 Posted: Wed Jun 25 09:01:02 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 30-Jun-86 03:20:06 EDT References: <2671@sdcc6.UUCP> <1445@ihuxn.UUCP> <2679@sdcc6.UUCP> <1452@ihuxn.UUCP> Reply-To: zwicky@osu-eddie.UUCP (Elizabeth D. Zwicky) Organization: The Ohio State University, CIS Dept. Lines: 28 Ken Perlow >You list those subjects (punctuation and grammar) as if they were >tools of oppression. But they are actually tools of liberation. >A person who can write clearly can think clearly. And a person who >can think clearly is dangerous. "Recontexualizing possibilities" >is pure fog. If Churchill had used language like that, we might >all be speaking German. You are right about one thing, of course: >No, you *don't* teach writing. >-- You write as if a person who cannot write clearly cannot think clearly. In fact, it is perfectly possible to be able to think and not to write, and perfectly possible to think clearly but badly. Writing is a skill. One of the reasons it is important is that many otherwise reasonable people continue to believe that bad writing is a result of bad thinking. Don't assume, however, that I think you're all wrong; I agree with you on most points. I just happen to think that you are also subscribing to a widespread and dangerous fallacy. Good writing is important for many reasons; grammar and punctuation are important tools which everyone should know; the original poster does write somewhat pretentiously. But his heart is in the right place. Anything that can get people to see writing as part of life instead of a malicious invention of pedants is a Good Thing. (The order of the above is less than perfect; sorry) Elzabeth D. Zwicky