Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!columbia!caip!princeton!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!houxm!hound!rfg From: rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Yet another view on the death of the "soapbox groups" Message-ID: <1760@hound.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Jun-86 17:53:42 EDT Article-I.D.: hound.1760 Posted: Mon Jun 2 17:53:42 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Jun-86 19:02:42 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 20 It seems to be a common human failing that we like to complain about the other guys failings while ignoring our own. For example, here I am lecturing to the great and powerful who run net.news while I am a next to know nothing about the whole shebang. Be that as it may, let me observe that it seems a mite peculiar to me that you folks are out their about to "fix" the users misuse of the net by organizing the so-called "soapbox groups" out of existence, while the net itself appears to continue to deteriorate technically. Why is it, for example, that the so-called line eater bug still seems to exist? Why is it that multiple transmissions of articles are occurring with increasing frequency? Why is it that articles reflecting back to their point of origin seem to be occurring more and more frequently? Surely these latter two faults, at least, are contributing to the traffic problem. I originate very few articles. Yet, when I do, I see them come back to me over and over again. I suggest that this is a case where it is easier and more fun to remove the dust particle from your brothers eye while ignoring the beam in your own. -- "It's the thought, if any, that counts!" Dick Grantges hound!rfg