Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!styx!fair From: fair@styx.UUCP (Erik E. Fair) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: Yet another view on the death of the "soapbox groups" Message-ID: <20682@styx.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Jun-86 04:41:28 EDT Article-I.D.: styx.20682 Posted: Tue Jun 3 04:41:28 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 4-Jun-86 19:14:27 EDT References: <1760@hound.UUCP> Organization: Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, Livermore, CA Lines: 27 I don't know about you, Mr. Grantges, but I fix the problems that are within my powers to fix. I can do nothing about the increasing tide of mediocrity in the so-called `technical' groups except exhort those responsible to employ their gray matter with more frequency. (and perhaps retire to intelligently moderated newsgroups). I can do nothing about the legions of pinheaded system administrators who have neither the time to educate their users, nor the time to run current software, but do have the time to flame at other people for suggesting that they update their ancient software or educate that particularly annoying user at their site. I can and will assist the backbone in any way that I deem reasonable to lower their costs and system loads, and increase the reliability and speed of the network through the nodes where I either administrate or have influence. For the record, on the systems where I can do something, the establishment of a list of talk.* groups will be nothing more than a rename; the users that I serve clearly think the listed groups are worth reading, and therefore I will continue to pass those groups around under whatever names the network community decides. Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu styx!fair fair@lll-tis-b.arpa