Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!seismo!styx!mcb From: mcb@styx.UUCP (Michael C. Berch) Newsgroups: net.news,net.space Subject: Re: Article on USENET in the for-real press Message-ID: <20702@styx.UUCP> Date: Sun, 22-Jun-86 23:48:32 EDT Article-I.D.: styx.20702 Posted: Sun Jun 22 23:48:32 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Jun-86 04:42:17 EDT References: <1463@brl-smoke.ARPA> <109@ora.UUCP> Reply-To: mcb@styx.UUCP (Michael C. Berch) Distribution: net Organization: Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, Livermore CA Lines: 30 Xref: linus net.news:4192 net.space:5607 Summary: (Essentially all) Usenet articles are public domain In article <109@ora.UUCP> tim@ora.UUCP (Tim O'Reilly) writes: > [Discussion of use of real netnews articles in DEC publication...] > . . . > I am the author of the article in question; I made the assumption that > material posted to Usenet was effectively published information, and > therefore subject to the fair use rule in reprinting material in > reviews et al. Right conclusion, wrong legal reasoning. Tim is correct that the permission of the authors was not necessary. [Whether he should have done so as a matter of courtesy is orthagonal to the legal question.] The question is not whether the articles are "published" (they are) but whether they are in the public domain. Material that is published without copyright notice, and without evidence that the copyright notice was inadvertantly omitted, is in the the public domain. [Yes, there are some trivial exceptions to this, and yes, there are cases where distribution does not comprise publication, but they're not involved here.] Reprinting the articles in question does not fall under the "fair use" doctrine, which applies only to copyrighted material. Tim (or any of us) is perfectly free to make any use of public domain Usenet articles, including republishing them for profit. About the only thing you CAN'T do is assert intellectual property rights in them and try to copyright them yourself. [Or use the information therein in an unlawful manner, etc.] Michael C. Berch ARPA: mcb@lll-tis-b.ARPA UUCP: {ihnp4,dual,sun}!lll-lcc!styx!mcb