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From: dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman)
Newsgroups: net.news.notes
Subject: Re: Ex-Notes reader comments on "rn"...
Message-ID: <1280@lsuc.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 4-Jul-86 05:09:31 EDT
Article-I.D.: lsuc.1280
Posted: Fri Jul  4 05:09:31 1986
Date-Received: Fri, 4-Jul-86 05:53:08 EDT
References: <410@hplabsc.UUCP>
Reply-To: dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman)
Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto
Lines: 64
Keywords: notes,news,rn,diversity of systems
Summary: rn does the things you want it to

In article <410@hplabsc.UUCP> taylor@hplabsc.UUCP (Dave Taylor) writes:
>On the plus side, though, there are some features of notes that I'll really
>miss, and might end up hacking about in the 'rn' source to add the features;
>

I'm going to post this because I bet most rn specialists don't read
this group (why would they read net.news.notes anyway?) I happen to
read it because we run our own hacked-up version of notes for
local computer conferencing (nothing to do with Usenet), while we
use rn for Usenet.

>	o The ability to have an index page is a big win!   It's really
>	  nice to get a concise summary of the articles present in a news
>	  group, especially when you haven't read the group in a long 
>	  while.  I really wish 'rn' had this capability.

IT DOES. It's the = key.

>	o The ability to concentrate on the BODY of the message rather than
>	  the headers is also nice - when reading a message I don't have to 
>	  play "header-decoder" when using Notes, since it does all the
>	  dirty work for me - centering the subject line, parsing the From:
>	  and Org: lines, and so on.

YOU CAN DO THIS. Just set -horg, for example, and your Org lines
will all disappear. You can even customize it to whether you're on
a slow line or not. Here's my .rninit file (my RNINIT environment
variable is set to /u/dave/.rninit):

-s3 -S
-hsender -happarently-to -hdat -hreply-to -hmes -hart -hdist -hnewsg -hlines
+4800-i=16
-2400-i=7
-href -hcc
+4800+hpath
-2400-hOrg
-EMAILPOSTER="Rnmail -h %h %A"
-ENEWSPOSTER="Pnews -h %h %A"
-EMAILCALL='You have some new mail waiting!'


>	o The chaining structure of 'notes' is nice too - it's a painless
>	  way of grouping (somewhat) alike articles...(it breaks down pretty
>	  fast though...)

You get that automatically with -S in rn (if you look above, you'll
see I get it automatically - it's the equivalent of invoking
rn with all the options shown). And, if you don't invoke rn with
-S, you can still get it by typing ^N instead of n.


Needless to say, I agree with all your positive comments about
rn. Larry has indeed done a wonderful job. And he's also
fixed - before you asked for them - all the things you complained
about.

And I agree about the disadvantages of notes. All you notes sites
should seriously consider switching.

Dave Sherman
The Law Society of Upper Canada
Toronto
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