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From: dave@andromeda.RUTGERS.EDU (Dave Bloom)
Newsgroups: net.news.adm,net.news.sa
Subject: Re: The REAL problem with USENET
Message-ID: <327@andromeda.RUTGERS.EDU>
Date: Fri, 30-May-86 10:17:23 EDT
Article-I.D.: andromed.327
Posted: Fri May 30 10:17:23 1986
Date-Received: Sat, 31-May-86 07:18:32 EDT
References: <324@andromeda.RUTGERS.EDU> <14049@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
Organization: Rutgers University, Newark, NJ
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Keywords: vendetta
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Summary: What vendetta???

In article <14049@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, (Matthew P. Wiener) writes:
> 
> Do I smell a VENDETTA?  50% is rather *good* for net.jokes with all
> the puns and one-line alternate punchlines and wry comments, etc.
> And 50% is a rather typical quoting level in many newsgroups, from
> net.politics to net.mail to net.news.group etc. etc.  Yet somehow
> this student managed to find MY posting as the example of idiotic
> abuse.  Do I smell a rat?
> 

Obviously Mr Weemba is suffering from paranoia. I have no reason for
a personal vendetta with him... I don't know him, have never met him
and would probably like to keep it that way. I don't even read net.jokes.
But as a system administrator I see the traffic that passes through my
machine, and after having perused our news spool I noticed a number of
flames/100 line quote articles directed at or posted by Mr Weemba.

Weemba is my example, as I stated in my posting, not the whole problem.
But his PRACTICES, as well those by those like him are a major CAUSE of
the problem.

>> This is not the first time this person has posted mega-line quote postings
>> to this newsgroup, nor is he the only one.
> 
> Yes, I'm not the only one.  But it's a rather amazing coincidence how
> you or the student involved happened to overlook the 90+% quoted
> material examples in net.jokes, or my numerous wholly original articles
> in net.jokes, for that matter, isn't it?  No, it's not a coincidence?

No... It's not a coincidence. Net.jokes is a heavily posted-to newsgroup,
and of those posting to it it seems that Weemba is the worst cause of flame
generation/re-hashing. If PEOPLE LIKE HIM would rely on e-mail, we wouldn't
be having these discussions about starting "talk" groups. Notice the "people
like him" phrase... not just him, but him and "people like him".
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